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Washington Plans Unprecedented Camera Network
REUTERS ^ | February 13, 2002 08:10 AM ET | Reuters

Posted on 02/13/2002 6:15:46 AM PST by goldylight

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To: concerned about politics
I take extreme umbrage at the notion that this is a "Different" type of war. It is most definitely NOT a different type of war. This TYPE of war has existed from time immemorial. In ancient times, barbarians would come over the borders, slaughter some civilians and loot their property. Rome would then go out and crush their civilization and Romanize it. They did it to the entire known world. Want a more recent example? WWI was started by a "Terrorist" outfit in Bosnia. I am quoting the word "terrorist" because that is how the Black Hand described itself. Another perhaps? How about Pancho Villa? What was he if not a terrorist. How did his tactics differ from OBL except by volume/technology.

This is not a new type of war at all. Its as old as the hills. The only thing different is how our governement has chosen to combat it. Instead of doing the old tried and true methods, we are instead, embarking on this pseudo-war for all time concept. No, its not new at all.The end of the Republic; that is new!

121 posted on 02/13/2002 7:50:22 AM PST by Loopy
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To: spunkets
And then what? A big commando raid? A sustained hack attack?

Dream on.

These cameras are here to stay, learn to live with them or work around them.

122 posted on 02/13/2002 7:52:39 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Rebelbase
Orson Wells was a prophet.

Orson Wells or George Orwell?

123 posted on 02/13/2002 7:57:08 AM PST by Virginia-American
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Of course...just march along in an orderly fashion, wave your little American flag, all the while humming God Bless America. You'll be alright.
124 posted on 02/13/2002 7:57:38 AM PST by RCW2001
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To: Loopy
cut it out...I'm not allowed to laugh when the cameras are on me.
125 posted on 02/13/2002 7:58:38 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: goldylight
Orwell was only 18 years off.
127 posted on 02/13/2002 8:00:08 AM PST by oldvike
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To: technochick99; concerned about politics; twigs
"The Israeli security specialist hired to make Logan International Airport one of the nation's safest said yesterday he will recommend the use of behavioral analysts to screen passengers..."

"Rafi Ron said he would recommend instituting ''pattern behavior recognition'' in a report he's scheduled to submit to the Massachusetts Port Authority and state officials on March 15. Under his proposal, teams of behavioral specialists would fan out throughout Logan to identify suspicious travelers...."

"Since the terrorist attacks, Logan has unveiled a host of new antiterrorism technology, from highly sensitive machines to detect explosives to facial recognition software that can match a face with mug shots from a criminal database."

(Anyone here think this behavior pattern recognition is going to be confined to airports?)

And get this one:

''It's only the Mohammad Attas [one of the Sept. 11 terrorist leaders] of this world who will end up complaining.''

So if I don't like having my face scanned by cameras and my behavior scrutinized to the 9th degree by Big Brother, that would make me a terrorist.

Source

128 posted on 02/13/2002 8:02:48 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Virginia-American
See #83.
129 posted on 02/13/2002 8:04:13 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: boris
I envisoned an army of folks, armed with GPS receivers and note pads.

Ball-peen hammers would be cheaper than GPS receivers.

130 posted on 02/13/2002 8:10:09 AM PST by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak
we are at War now
do no Wrong, nothing to Fear
it's for The Children
131 posted on 02/13/2002 8:14:58 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Travis McGee
Hmmmm.... reminds me that I have to buy something before I ever go to "the swamp"...

Know where I can buy a Bill Clinton mask? $;-)

132 posted on 02/13/2002 8:17:20 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: Virginia-American
Yikes!

Okay, kids, its:

Orson Welles

H.G. Wells

George Orwell (AKA Eric Blair).

Class dismissed. :-)

133 posted on 02/13/2002 8:18:37 AM PST by Mugwump
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To: Joe Brower
Wearing a mask will be a crime, like it aleady is in NYC and many other places.
134 posted on 02/13/2002 8:25:00 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Mugwump
Don't forget the great Orson Bean.
135 posted on 02/13/2002 8:26:05 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: goldylight
Speaking of "Time Machines", if we had a camera network set-up in every major city on September 10, 2001, would we have pre-empted the terrorists attack of September 11th. I think not. We may have caught a few red-light runners, and speeders but not much more.

I would bet that the camera networks are planned for every major U.S. city within the next 5 years. Probably being funded by monies to fight terrorism. And those cities that baulk about Civil Liberties, you can bet that they will be strong armed with threats for loss of Governmental funding.

If surveillence cameras are going to be used to fight major crime, well they would do best to place them in the boardrooms of major corporations (e.g. Enron, Andersen, etc.)

137 posted on 02/13/2002 8:31:48 AM PST by all4one
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To: LincolnDefender
Baaaaa Baaaaaa


138 posted on 02/13/2002 8:36:15 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Travis McGee
Darn. I thought that, since it'd be a depiction of everyone's favorite statist (Bubba), they'd make an exception...
139 posted on 02/13/2002 8:36:47 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: LincolnDefender
I presently live in a large size city and there are a lot of behaviors that would change if people were living in small towns or weren't anonoymous.

So, is this about national security or is it an attempt at social engineering?

Maybe both?

140 posted on 02/13/2002 8:39:08 AM PST by freeeee
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