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Posted on 02/09/2002 2:21:05 PM PST by Mia T

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The White House Booty
Letters .. thanked Lee and Joy Ficks for their 1993 donation of a
kitchen set to the White House. Joy Ficks said she was surprised to
hear the Clintons are keeping the kitchen set as a personal gift.

White House Gifts List

• $19,900 two sofas, an easy chair and an ottoman from Steve Mittman,
New York.
• $3,650 kitchen table and four chairs from Lee Ficks, Cincinnati.
• $2,843 sofa from Brad Noe, High Point, N.C.
• $1,170 lamps from Stuart Schiller, Hialeah, Fla.
• $1,000 needlepoint rug from David Martinous, Little Rock.
Following are gifts the Clintons received in 2000 and are paying for:
• $9,433 china cabinet, chandelier and a copy of President Lincoln's
Cooper Union speech from Walter and Selma Kaye, New York.
• $7,375 two coffee tables and two chairs from Denise Rich, New York.
• $7,000 dining room table, server and golf club from Mr. and Mrs. Ron
Dozoretz, Washington.
• $6,282 two carpets from Glen Eden Carpets, Calhoun, Ga.
• $5,000 rug from Martin Patrick Evans, Chicago.
• $5,000 china from Mr. and Mrs. Bill Brandt, Winnetka, Ill.
• $4,994 flatware from Ghada Irani, Los Angeles.
• $4,992 china from Iris Cantor, New York.
• $4,967 flatware, Edith Wasserman, Beverly Hills, Calif.
• $4,967 flatware, Mr. and Mrs. Morris Pynoos, Beverly Hills, Calif.
• $4,787 china from Mary Steenburgen and Ted Danson, Los Angeles.
• $4,920 china from Mr. and Mrs. Steven Spielberg, Universal City,
• $3,000 painting from Joan Tumpson, Miami.
• $2,993 televisions and DVD player from Paul Goldenberg, La Habra,
• $2,400 dining room chairs from Arthur Athis, Los Angeles.
• $2,110 china and jacket from Jill and Ken Iscol, Pound Ridge, N.Y.
• $1,588 flatware from Myra Greenspun, Green Valley, Nev.
• $595 pantsuit and sweater, Margaret O'Leary, San Francisco.
• $524 golf driver and golf balls from Richard Helmstetter, Carlsbad,
• $500 antique book on George Washington, Mr. and Mrs. Bud Yorkin, Los
• $499 golf driver from Ely Callaway, Carlsbad, Calif.
• $450 leather jacket from Vin Gupta, Omaha.
• $350 golf driver, Jack Nicholson, Beverly Hills, Calif.
• $350 framed tapestry, Mr. and Mrs. Vo Viet Thanh, Vietnam.
• $340 two sweaters from Robin Carnahan and Nina Canci, St. Louis.
• $300 flatware from Colette D'Etremont, New Brunswick, Canada.
• $300 painting of Buddy, Brian B. Ready, Chappaqua, N.Y.


Chair Lift

Among the gifts that former president Bill Clinton says he is keeping as
personal presents he accepted last year are $28,000 worth of furnishings
that documents and interviews indicate were given to the National Park
Service in 1993 as part of the permanent White House collection...
Two of the furniture makers whose donations Clinton took with him on
leaving the White House last month say they gave them to the White House
as part of a widely publicized, $396,000 redecoration of the executive
mansion and not to Clinton personally.
"When we've been asked to donate, it was always hyphenated with the
words, " 'White House,' " New York manufacturer Steve Mittman said of
his family-owned business, which gave two sofas, an easy chair and an
ottoman, worth $19,900 and listed by Clinton as part of the gifts he
took with him. "To us, it was not a donation to a particular person."

Gifts Were Not Meant for Clintons, Some Donors Say

Sen. Clinton made another assertion - one that is equally misleading.

She contends she was not obliged to report the first Leiber bag she received "because it was received before the Clintons entered the White House."

But this bag, valued at $3,500, was received after the election and during the transition and therefore obviously was related to the Clinton presidency.



But he said the Socks purse was given to Clinton during the transition in late 1992, before her husband took office...

TRANSLATION: An earlier example of the clinton post-election/pre-swearing-in klepto-bribery scheme...




Is hillary clinton's $8M "book advance" a Peter-Principle artifact?

1 posted on 02/09/2002 2:21:05 PM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
The jacket could use some has such a slimming effect!!
2 posted on 02/09/2002 2:28:49 PM PST by karebare
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To: Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; river rat; Freedom'sWorthIt; IVote2; Slyfox...
Q ERTY6 clinton & clinton were utter failures
kleptocratic REALITY-CHECK ping! 
QWER•TY (kwûr'tee) adj.
Of, relating to, or designating the traditional configuration of typewriter or computer keyboard keys. [From the first six letters at the upper left.]
Q ERTY Series: The Inspiration
No Joke
Those who trashed the White House were vicious vandals, not merry pranksters.
Monday, January 29, 2001 12:01 a.m. EST
The Wall Street Journal
What is a "prank"? And when does a prank take on a darker hue and
merit, instead, a less indulgent label--such as "delinquency," or
These questions, whose answers are rooted in common sense, culture and
civilization, were raised last week by revelations first detailed on the
Internet by Matt Drudge, for whose insolent, frontiersman's approach to
newsgathering we continue to be grateful. He's not always right, and
he's not always elegant, but he bawls his tales from the rafters when
others, more timorous and more conventional, would only mince their
words, or whisper.
Although the mainstream press echoed the story only reluctantly, and
sought to draw its sting by downgrading it to the status of rumor, the
contents of the Drudge report seemed to be unquestionably consonant with
the tone, the oh-so-jarring tone, struck, in their departure from the
White House, by the Clinton cohorts--from the strutting
self-congratulation of the ex-president at Andrews Air Force Base (like
a weed, he'd taken root, and like a weed he called to be ripped from the
soil beneath him), to the stripping bare of the former Air Force One by
the ex-presidential locusts.
According to reports, outgoing Clinton-Gore staffers at the White House
performed a range of "pranks," including the prizing out from many White
House computer keyboards of the W (Dubya) key, the gluing shut of
drawers on office desks, the infecting of computers with viruses, the
recording of offensive reception messages on the answering machines, the
slashing (yes, slashing) of telephone lines, the loading of pornographic
images on printers and computers, offensive graffiti on corridors and
bathroom walls, the turning upside down of desks, and, as a valedictory
signature, the leaving of a trail of trash across the West Wing.
Mr. Drudge, the only one to quantify the damage publicly, has put the
monetary estimate--in terms of its cost to the taxpayer--at $200,000.
There is some speculation that this is a conservative estimate. Peggy
Noonan writes: "You just know when you read about it that it's worse
than anyone is saying--the Bush people being discreet because they don't
want to start out with complaints and finger pointing, the Clinton-Gore
people because it is in their obvious interests to play it down."
These actions have been characterized as "pranks" in the press, although
the Washington Post did, in a giveaway line, suggest that there was more
to the story than high jinks. Quoting Clinton(ian) sources, the paper
"The Democratic officials said the actions were meant to be funny, or in
some cases were an outlet for frustration by soon-to-be-unemployed
Were these actions "pranks"? Let's parse the situation, and start by
returning to my original question: What is a prank? I think most people
would agree that a prank is an impish action, intended by the prankster
to make the "prankee" feel momentarily sheepish, but not shell-shocked
or outraged. Classic pranks are intended to provoke a prankish payback,
not heated antagonism, or contempt. In other words, the prankster's
motivation lies in a sense of irreverent one-upmanship--in mischief, not
malice. The mental state, or mens rea, of the perpetrator is as central
to the definition of prank as it is to murder or assault.
To give you an example: In my days at Oxford, I was witness to a healthy
rivalry between my college, Trinity, and our insufferable neighbors,
Pranks were the currency in which this rivalry was traded. On one
occasion, some chaps from Balliol uprooted the rugby posts from the
Trinity grounds (some four miles away), brought them in a hired lorry to
college, and set them up on the lawns in front of the Trinity chapel.
They chuckled, and, yes, we chuckled too. In reprisal, a handful of
hearties from Trinity stole into Balliol in the pitch of night and
unleashed a sheep in the college library there, the stench of whose
droppings caused the Balliol librarian nearly to faint the next
morning. Again, we chuckled, and they chuckled back. These were
pranks, part of a sequential, good-natured rivalry. There was no malice
aforethought, only a juvenile sense of caper.
The other distinction between a prank and an act that exceeds a prank's
bounds is the causing of harm, or damage. In boarding school in India,
as a boy, I once threw a rock at a hive of wild bees that had grown,
high up, on the clock tower of the school's main building. My aim was
unerring, and the hive broke, discharging scores of furious bees in the
direction of my admiring friends. While I was able to scamper to
safety, two boys were stung so badly that they were hospitalized. My
act was not a prank, since it had caused damage. I was publicly caned,
and rightly, by the principal.
In the context of the White House, any harm or damage must be construed
to include the infliction of a burden on the taxpayer--not to mention
the interference, however temporary, with the business of government.
So the hanging up, here and there, of signs that said "Dept.
of Strategery"--a play on the president's bumbling way with words--was a
prank worthy of my confreres at Trinity or Balliol, or even of the frat
house at which our "frat boy" president earned his spurs.
But the slashing of phone lines? The gluing shut of desk drawers? The
gouging out from keyboards of the W key? The infection of computers
with viruses? The redirection of official phone lines, on which the
public and government rely? These, I fear, violate the prankster's
rulebook. They caused damage; lines, desks, computers and keyboards
needed repair and replacement. My money, and yours, was used for this
Most shabby of all, however, was the perpetrators' intent. A true
prank--a prank properly defined--is carried out in a jocular spirit.
Pranks are escapades, monkeyshines. They're not acts of venom or spite,
of resentment or ill-will. If the actor is malefic, he is not a
prankster but a vandal. He is, in truth, a delinquent.
That's what I learned in grade school, and I commend that interpretation
to you.

Mr. Varadarajan is deputy editorial features editor of The Wall Street Journal. His column appears Mondays.

I would argue with Mr. Varadarajan's contention that mens rea must be considered and that the absence of malicious intent reduces the act to mere prank. Such an argument runs contrary to the concept of strict liability crimes. That doctrine (Park v United States, (1974) 421 US 658,668) established the principle of 'strict liability' or 'liability without fault' in certain criminal cases, usually involving crimes which endanger the public welfare.

"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools.
Let's start with typewriters."

- Frank Lloyd Wright

Someone recently tested the monkeys-on-typewriters bit trying for the plays of Will Shakespeare, but all they got were the plays of bill clinton.


3 posted on 02/09/2002 2:31:38 PM PST by Mia T
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Notice she didn't say ALL the gifts, that rascaly beast.

4 posted on 02/09/2002 2:52:04 PM PST by Slyfox
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...prompted complaints from GAO chief David Walker, who told the News, "they want us to do more work than is even reasonable."

Is this RINO referring to Enron (sarcasm)? I'm still at a loss to understand why the GAO is involved in Enron to begin with. Clearly the area of vandalism is within their scope and I don't consider it unreasonable to expect they fulfill their duty.

It's not clear whether the White House's newly aggressive attitude will translate into action in the office of the U.S. Attorney for New York's Southern District, which has been accused of footdragging in its probe into the Clinton Pardongate scandal. We can dream, can't we? Although to finally see justice seems to be a dream that I don't wish to be beguiled by.

5 posted on 02/09/2002 3:17:37 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Mia T
I think you meant to say "punch". Hope this helps.
6 posted on 02/09/2002 3:19:42 PM PST by RichInOC
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To: RichInOC
I'm kidding, of course. Who would want to soil their fists on that face, anyway? God only knows where it's been.
7 posted on 02/09/2002 3:24:10 PM PST by RichInOC
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To: Mia T
Bump for later reading.
8 posted on 02/09/2002 3:48:00 PM PST by martian_22
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To: martian_22
Bump for Mia. Nice work!
9 posted on 02/09/2002 4:07:21 PM PST by Faith
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To: Mia T
Thanks for the info.
10 posted on 02/09/2002 4:22:24 PM PST by kassie
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To: Mia T
My God, woman, are you prolific! Bump for MiaT.
11 posted on 02/09/2002 6:06:12 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: Mia T
Thanks for the heads-up. Great work. You are too much.
12 posted on 02/09/2002 7:28:05 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: Mia T
This will be the first link I put in that DUBOB update- been off the board since noon yesterday trying to get an old 486 DOS/Win 3.1 PC set up as a spare browser...
( Geez! Return with us now to those Thrilling Days of Yesteryear... "Abort, Retry, or Fail?"-- )
13 posted on 02/10/2002 1:24:23 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Mia T
In answer to liberal/libertarian reality---the... realatarians!!
14 posted on 02/10/2002 1:36:13 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: backhoe; edwin hubble; DoctorMichael; all

clinton-clinton-gore reinvention-of-government scheme screwed America clinton, clinton & gore were utter failures


Someone recently tested the monkeys-on-typewriters bit trying for the
plays of Will Shakespeare, but all they got were the plays of bill clinton.


Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.
Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.
Mia T, On Neutered and Neutering, by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)


clinton-clinton-gore reinvention-of-government schemata

by Mia T







15 posted on 02/10/2002 2:51:54 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
One could spend hours studying this post to fully understand and appreciate all that you've included.

Regarding the issue of the Bush team leaning on the GAO to investigate the vandalism, however--why now? It's been over a year since the trail has started to grow cold. What are they going to find now that couldn't more easily have found in January/February, 2001? And, what are they going to do once they've assessed all the damages? Will anyone be prosecuted? I think not. Will they go after the (presumably) low level staffers who left porn in the copy machine, or who rendered the "W" keys on keyboards inoperable?

Given their initial response that it was no big deal, 'twould seem that the Bush team are leaving themselves open to charges of vindictiveness here. If they were interested at all in meting justice to the scoundrels of the previous administration, there are other, much more heinous, acts that could (and should) be scrutinized.

16 posted on 02/10/2002 4:06:32 AM PST by be-baw
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To: backhoe
This will be the first link I put in that DUBOB update

I would greatly appreciate you pinging me when you post that.

been off the board since noon yesterday trying to get an old 486 DOS/Win 3.1 PC set up as a spare browser...

Let me know if you need any bubble gum or rubber bands to keep it all together...

17 posted on 02/10/2002 4:17:02 AM PST by be-baw
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To: be-baw, MiaT, Hillary's Lovely Legs
Yes, it does take time to digest everything MiaT produces - but it is worth it when you can take the time to do so. But she also presents an accumulative of the Clinton Crime Years in such a graphically intense and unique manner, you can pick and choose at each presentation which line of criminal behavior you would like to focus upon and just absorb one presentation at a time.

I, too, wondered about why after a year the trashing of the White House is finally going to be looked into - seriously - I hope. Whyever it is, I am very glad that it is.

And, HLL - (hello at the Olympics) - and Mia T - had the Clinton cleptocracy nailed - with MiaT's drawing a year before the theft of White House furniture was known by the world - an amazingly prescient presentation!

MiaT = is there more regarding this information that you can reveal?

"And yet, according to a reliable-source friend of mine, even back in those days the wife had designs on the White House furnishings; she had already acquired the nasty habit of pilfering from the WH drapery fund."


18 posted on 02/10/2002 4:21:46 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Mia T
19 posted on 02/10/2002 4:30:34 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Mia T
What a post! Madam's mu-mu morphs magnificantly into the missing menagerie.

I believe the fact that the Clinton's have gotten away with every scheme, crime, and indecent act leaves conservatives with a horrid taste in our mouths. I would love to see them held accountable for one unsavory instance or act. Our President and First Lady entered the White House with funds (and keys) held back by the GAO and entered the Clinton cesspool - a filthy, disgusting, morally corrupt environment. The magnanimous way President and Mrs. Bush handled this slap in the face is a testiment to their character and I envy their control.

But the recent meeting of Clintonites, held for whatever vanities the rapist deems important, released the hounds of his administration into the waiting arms of the lamestream media. Their attempts to divert responsibility, undermine our President at time of war, and rewrite their do-nothing policies into passable excuses may have been the last straw. For just a moment, I'd love to see the President take his gloves off and slap Hillary.

20 posted on 02/10/2002 4:46:46 AM PST by Quilla
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