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Love and Selfishness
Ayn Rand Institute ^ | February 6, 2002 | Gary Hull

Posted on 02/07/2002 6:58:30 AM PST by RJCogburn

Love and Selfishness
The False View of Love as Selfless and Unconditional Destroys its Sublime Value.

Every Valentine's Day a certain philosophic crime is perpetrated. Actually, it is committed year-round, but its destructiveness is magnified on this holiday. The crime is the propagation of a widely accepted falsehood: the idea that love is selfless.

Love, we are repeatedly taught, consists of self-sacrifice. Love based on self-interest, we are admonished, is cheap and sordid. True love, we are told, is altruistic. But is it?

Imagine a Valentine's Day card which takes this premise seriously. Imagine receiving a card with the following message: "I get no pleasure from your existence. I obtain no personal enjoyment from the way you look, dress, move, act or think. Our relationship profits me not. You satisfy no sexual, emotional or intellectual needs of mine. You're a charity case, and I'm with you only out of pity. Love, XXX."

Needless to say, you would be indignant to learn that you are being "loved," not for anything positive you offer your lover, but—like any recipient of alms—for what you lack. Yet that is the perverse view of love entailed in the belief that it is self-sacrificial.

Genuine love is the exact opposite. It is the most selfish experience possible, in the true sense of the term: it benefits your life in a way that involves no sacrifice of others to yourself or of yourself to others.

To love a person is selfish because it means that you value that particular person, that he or she makes your life better, that he or she is an intense source of joy—to you. A "disinterested" love is a contradiction in terms. One cannot be neutral to that which one values. The time, effort and money you spend on behalf of someone you love are not sacrifices, but actions taken because his or her happiness is crucially important to your own. Such actions would constitute sacrifices only if they were done for a stranger—or for an enemy. Those who argue that love demands self-denial must hold the bizarre belief that it makes no personal difference whether your loved one is healthy or sick, feels pleasure or pain, is alive or dead.

It is regularly asserted that love should be unconditional, and that we should "love everyone as a brother." We see this view advocated by the "non-judgmental" grade-school teacher who tells his class that whoever brings a Valentine's Day card for one student must bring cards for everyone. We see it in the appalling dictum of "Hate the sin, but love the sinner"—which would have us condemn death camps but send Hitler a box of Godiva chocolates. Most people would agree that having sex with a person one despises is debased. Yet somehow, when the same underlying idea is applied to love, people consider it noble.

Love is far too precious to be offered indiscriminately. It is above all in the area of love that egalitarianism ought to be repudiated. Love represents an exalted exchange—a spiritual exchange—between two people, for the purpose of mutual benefit.

You love someone because he or she is a value—a selfish value to you, as determined by your standards—just as you are a value to him or her.

It is the view that you ought to be given love unconditionally—the view that you do not deserve it any more than some random bum, the view that it is not a response to anything particular in you, the view that it is causeless—which exemplifies the most ignoble conception of this sublime experience.

The nature of love places certain demands on those who wish to enjoy it. You must regard yourself as worthy of being loved. Those who expect to be loved, not because they offer some positive value, but because they don't—i.e., those who demand love as altruistic duty—are parasites. Someone who says "Love me just because I need it" seeks an unearned spiritual value—in the same way that a thief seeks unearned wealth. To quote a famous line from The Fountainhead: "To say 'I love you,' one must know first how to say the 'I '"

Valentine's Day—with its colorful cards, mouth-watering chocolates and silky lingerie—gives material form to this spiritual value. It is a moment for you to pause, to ignore the trivialities of life—and to celebrate the selfish pleasure of being worthy of someone's love and of having found someone worthy of yours.

Gary Hull, Ph.D. in philosophy, is a senior writer for the Ayn Rand Institute in Marina del Rey, Calif. The Institute promotes the philosophy of Ayn Rand, author of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead


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1 posted on 02/07/2002 6:58:30 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn; one_particular_harbour
Great piece.
2 posted on 02/07/2002 7:03:55 AM PST by riley1992
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To: RJCogburn
There are many types of love. The one dimensional view depicted here is typical of Rand followers. This brand of love is based on 'what you can do for me'. How depressing and hopeless. There is not one human who can measure up to anothers standard. This article's title should be edited to simply read Selfishness.
3 posted on 02/07/2002 7:06:51 AM PST by GWfan
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To: RJCogburn
"The time, effort and money you spend on behalf of someone you love are not sacrifices, but actions taken because his or her happiness is crucially important to your own."

A great article and an opinion that I agree with entirely.

4 posted on 02/07/2002 7:10:18 AM PST by LeeMcCoy
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To: GWfan
The one dimensional view depicted here is typical of Rand followers. This brand of love is based on 'what you can do for me'.

Did you even read the article?

5 posted on 02/07/2002 7:13:02 AM PST by riley1992
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To: GWfan
"This brand of love is based on 'what you can do for me'. How depressing and hopeless. There is not one human who can measure up to anothers standard. This article's title should be edited to simply read Selfishness."

Nope. People surpass my standards daily ... whether they are explicitly doing something for me or not. By living rational and moral lives they are indeed doing something that benefits me. What we find depressing and hopeless is that love should be value-neutral and thus a duty.
6 posted on 02/07/2002 7:15:54 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: GWfan
There is not one human who can measure up to anothers standard.

Beg your pardon, Pilgrim. My sweetie, Ms. Eula Goodnight, certainly does.

7 posted on 02/07/2002 7:16:30 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: riley1992
Yes. This article turns love into a sensual, selfish experience and it makes love one dimensional.

Unconditional love is the highest form of love. But I believe in God. My definition is that God is love and that He loves me unconditionally. If you truly love someone, you should be willing to lay down your life for them. Is that selfish?

If love is defined without knowing God or knowing His nature, then it is indeed sad and selfish.

8 posted on 02/07/2002 7:22:59 AM PST by GWfan
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To: RJCogburn
Those who argue that love demands self-denial must hold the bizarre belief that it makes no personal difference whether your loved one is healthy or sick, feels pleasure or pain, is alive or dead.

Remember how Orwell wrote about how the Burmese Communist Party came up with a written text that it's member were to use for marriage proposals ? When ideologues try to regiment their feelings along the lines of how they think people Ought to be, they say things as silly as this.

For richer for poorer ? In sickness and in health ? Or does Randian love last only so long as I am rich and you are young and pretty ?

9 posted on 02/07/2002 7:23:14 AM PST by Tokhtamish
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To: GWfan
Unconditional love is the highest form of love.

It most certainly is and you will find it in God and a puppy, nowhere else.

If you truly love someone, you should be willing to lay down your life for them. Is that selfish?

The article doesn't dispute that. What it says is that love is selfish to a certain degree. If I am in love with a man, his happiness means everything to me but it is naive to say that how his love for me makes me feel doesn't matter to me. It matters greatly as it well should.

10 posted on 02/07/2002 7:28:02 AM PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992
It does dispute it, as it states that love should not be offered indiscriminately. We are called to love all people, for those who are most unworthy are most in need of love. This is not the same as loving their actions. The example the author gives of 'loving the sinner and hating the sin' is ridiculous. God is just. He loves us, even you, but He hates sin.
11 posted on 02/07/2002 7:35:04 AM PST by GWfan
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To: GWfan
"The time, effort and money you spend on behalf of someone you love are not sacrifices, but actions taken because his or her happiness is crucially important to your own."

And what's wrong with that? Come on - reject the Kantian-Hegelian axis of evil. You can do it...

12 posted on 02/07/2002 7:41:18 AM PST by Noumenon
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To: GWfan; RJ Cogburn
Hi GWFan
long time, no see
I am happy to see you
Hi RJ
thank you for posting this article
I find it interesting
I don't favor sacrifice
I think God loves us all equally, infinitely, and unconditionally
As for conditional love -- you can only give yourself what you give another
if you don't allow freedom to the one you love, you are depriving yourself of freedom
Also I don't think the author realizes it is by loving our brother, that we love ourself
it is our own love we experience, when we love our brother
Love, Palo
13 posted on 02/07/2002 7:42:01 AM PST by palo verde
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To: GWfan
It does dispute it, as it states that love should not be offered indiscriminately.

You are speaking of a spirtual 'Love Thy Neighbor' form of love. The piece is speaking mostly toward the love between a man and woman and that had better be offered discriminately, I hardly think you can disagree with that.

He loves us, even you

He even loves poor, heretical, little ole me? Gee, thanks.

14 posted on 02/07/2002 7:42:15 AM PST by riley1992
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To: GWfan
"My definition is that God is love and that He loves me unconditionally."

If someone rejects Him, He will reject them. That rejection is refered to as damnation. That's a condition some miss.

15 posted on 02/07/2002 7:42:28 AM PST by spunkets
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To: RJCogburn
Might as well ask a beaver about the proper use of chainsaws.

Rand-ism is fine as far as it goes, but it doesn't go very far.

16 posted on 02/07/2002 7:45:07 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: spunkets
hi spunkets
I can't imagine God would stop loving anyone, no matter what
because why would He deprive Himself of the joy of loving them
Plus with His infinite wisdom and understanding, why would He damn them for making a mistake
We have free will to choose God, or not to
For me choosing God is the way to my happiness
but wouldn't it be unfriendly of God to damn me if I made the poorer choice for myself
Love, Palo
17 posted on 02/07/2002 8:02:59 AM PST by palo verde
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To: riley1992
There are 4 distinct types of love. The author attempts to 'mix it up' by confusing sensual love with unconditonal love. Here are the 4:

1.sensual love, that which stimulates the senses. ie: enjoying a sunset, eating a good meal, having sex.

2. family love, not sensual in nature. A mother's love for her children.

3. love of friends, not sensual, but brought about by common interests.

4. unconditional love or undeserved love, not sensual. Genuine concern for others. Not born of self-interest. This is the agape of the Bible. This is God's love for us.

I think that the author of this article is mixing unconditional love and senusual love to make his point. It just doesn't fly with me.

18 posted on 02/07/2002 8:08:39 AM PST by GWfan
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To: palo verde
Good morning Palo! I hope all is well with you. I have to get to work! I freep mail you later. ;)
19 posted on 02/07/2002 8:10:48 AM PST by GWfan
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