Posted on 02/04/2002 6:29:04 PM PST by JoeMomma
What's the fastest way to create one job for one of those downsized native-born American IT professionals? Just deport one H-1(b) back to India!
IMMIGRATION resource library: public-health facts, court decisions, local INS numbers!
None of the above.
My opposition to H-1B rests on two principles -- my opposition to corporate welfare and my desire to put Americans' interests before the interests of corporate America's quest for cheap labor.
It has to do with putting Americans first and cheap labor second. It has to do with ending corporate welfare programs designed to keep Americans (native and naturalized) unemployed -- one of which is called the H-1B program.
Do you favor corporate welfare in the form of the H-1B? You do? You're on the side of Bill Clinton and Robert Reiccccchhhhhhhhhh ...
You've borrowed a page from the Clinton handbook -- when you disagree, call the other persona racist, bigot, just anything but discuss the issue at hand. Ho hum ... at least be creative in your debate methods. But I guess lobbyists and cheap labor enthusiasts like yourself can't come up with a sound argument for putting Americans last -- so you come up with sound bites.
You see, I'm for Americans first, whether they are naturalized or homegrown. That's not bigoted, just like the Japanese aren't bigoted for their stance against non-Japaense labor in their country.
Putting Americans first and standing in opposition to H-1B isn't racist.
You are just one who believes that corporate America is flawless, and you love the free job market only when employers have the leverage over employees. When employees have leverage over the employers due to market constraints, you think that's unjust. You and your fat cat buddies run to liberal big government to get your taste of some corporate welfare.
Allman_Brothers_Are_Gay is really Bill Clinton (an H-1B supporter) lurking around the FR forums! I've figured it out!!!
He obviously can't argue FOR corporate welfare, so he starts calling names! A page from the Clinton/Lockhart/Begala/Carville playbook to say the least.
Actually, Pat Buchanan and Ralph Nader were against the H-1B. Winning candidates against the H-1B were Tim Hutchinson, Bob Barr, and Tom Tancredo.
That is pure BS. The requirements, guidelines, and restrictions are extremely stringent, and to overcome the hurdles set in place by them (educational level, English speaking ability, technical knowledge, and other merit-based factors), make it a daunting task for anyone to get one.
Not true. The DoL H-1B process is a rubber-stamp process where they check for the application's completeness (all the blanks are filled in) and not the veracity of the claims by the applicant business. As for the "prevailing wage" requirement, the prevailing wage is a number supplied by the employer (pulled out of the Adam-Clymer of the CEO is my guess) that merely reflects the wage that the employer would LIKE to pay an American in a similar position -- not actually what it would take to hire an American for that position.
The truth that you do not want to admit is that an American who is qualified for the job merit-wise may still be treated as an unqualified applicant by merely the salary requirements of that applicant. The business may legally turn away merit-wise qualified applicants whose only crime was asking for a market-based higher salary, and then run to liberal big-government for an H-1B by claiming a labor shortage.
The loopholes to prevent H-1B abuse are big enough to drive a Mack truck through.
Your very left-wing stance FOR the H-1B visa gets blown away by this conservative patriot frrom Colorado.
You're just in hysterics because you do want corporate welfare, and you're trying your best to defend it. Americans last -- corporate campaign contributions first. Straight from Clintonesque schools of thinking.
I'll align myself with conservative patriots like Tom Tancredo. Putting Americans first is the patriotic thing to do. Odd -- you've been an American citizen longer than I, and yet I'm more "America First" than you by a long shot. I guess it's just because I value employing Americans more than savings on the payroll account.
I'm against corporate welfare and all conservatives are. You, MR ABAG, are not a conservative -- just an apologist for corporate welfare.
What lobbying firm do you work for? I don't think there's an ITAA branch in Atlanta, but there may be a sister organization that promoted corporate welfare there.
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