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To: Ol' Sparky
The reason Jesus said that is because the pharisees were trying to trap him into a premature conflict with the Roman government.

You don't know if this is true; this is speculation, at best. Otherwise, show me the scripture where Jesus explains the strategy of the pharisees and how it would lead to an early crucifixion.

There are two kinds of people in the world (from a Christian standpoint): there are those that are under covenant to obey God's laws, and there are those that are not.

Why is it that you rabid Christians feel that you have the right to make everyone who is not a Christian and who has not made that covenant with God to live as if they have made it? Romans 13 doesn't say one word about Christians being allowed to enforce God's laws on non-believers; what it does say is that believers are subject to the laws of non-believers. It's possible that a case could be made that your attempts to force Christianity on others is actually hindering God's work.

For any Christian to attempt to force a non-Christian to adopt the Christian way of life is completely counter to God's plan. It's obvious that you missed your calling: the Spanish Inquisition ended a long time ago, and your efforts to bring back forced conversions are certainly not what God has in mind for those who have not yet accepted the Christian covenant.

117 posted on 02/03/2002 8:30:06 AM PST by CubicleGuy
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To: CubicleGuy
The Bible firmly condemns and rebukes adulterers and all other non-repentant sinners dozens of times and commands believers to rebuke those involved in that type of behavior. The Bible also calls for the death penalty for adultery.
123 posted on 02/03/2002 9:16:21 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: CubicleGuy
For any Christian to attempt to force a non-Christian to adopt the Christian way of life is completely counter to God's plan. It's obvious that you missed your calling: the Spanish Inquisition ended a long time ago, and your efforts to bring back forced conversions are certainly not what God has in mind for those who have not yet accepted the Christian covenant.

It sounds to me as though you view the Christian Lifestyle as a set of "don'ts" and "Thou shalt nots", while the non-Chrisitan lifestyle is the fun way to live. How sad. Christianity is freedom, freedom from bondage to sin, freedom from condemnation for sin. Free to live as God intended people to live. Of course, non-Christians don't see themselves as being in bondage, they see Christians as being the bound-up ones. Another indication of how deceived they are. I don't agree with "forcing" Christian values on those who obviously don't want them, but on the other hand, Christians can't just turn a blind eye to the sin and bondage around us. Jesus came to preach liberation to the prisoners, life to the dead, salvation to the lost, and sight to the blind. Each of those things has both a literal and spiritual application. Non-Christians are "walking dead", "prisoners", "lost", and "blind". They don't see themselves that way, but God does, and it is His opinion which counts. It is our obligation, indeed our duty, to preach the Gospel to the lost, blind, dead prisoners, and as one saint put it, use words if necessary. In my opinion, if Christians would set the proper example, non-Christians would be begging to know how to be a part of such a rich, free, full life.

125 posted on 02/03/2002 9:27:47 AM PST by nobdysfool
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