Constitution- Who Cares?

The American Partisan ^ | 1/31/02 | James Antle III

[ridensm]

the difference between Bill Clinton and Joseph Stalin

Time to enact their dream? Just kidding. It is hard not to resort to extravagant claims in the face of the ignorance one is confronted with across this country on Constitutional issues.

There was a bill once which required the federal government to cite the Constitutional justification for all laws. It failed, of course. I think it was Sen. John Glen that said of this bill, then we wouldn't be able to do 95% of what we do.

Thanks

[ppaul]

Some of the powers the federal government has gained resulted from curbing anti-freedom policies enacted at the state level.

I'll bet there are a number of FReepers who would say "au contrare!"

[Hoosier Patriot]

What it does mean is that Joe Average is not going to look at the burning compound in Waco on TV and say, "Wow, those people were so much like me, I fear that I could be next."

Absolutely right. Joe Average most likely will cheer the fact that "they got what they deserved" because "they were freaks and nuts, they said so on television, so let 'em burn!"

Joe Average does good to be able to spell the word constitution, let alone have a rational thought about its meaning and purpose. If people don't wake up to reality soon, God help us all.

[Blood of Tyrants]

The Constitution limited the federal government, but did not originally offer any protections against the depredations of state governments, which were still free... to knock people's doors down and otherwise deny their rights.

Incorrect. The Fourth and Fifth Amendments restricted government at ALL levels, not merely the federal government, who, at the time had NO departments with their associated JBTs. All states who ratified the Constitution also ratified the portion that makes the Constitution the supreme law of the land.

[Wurlitzer]

Well I can tell you the "security" people at the airports do not know $**T about the 4th amendment. I took 4 flights this week and they forced me to surrender my 4th amendment rights by searching my luggage twice and my laptop computer bag 6 times.

When I asked for their "search warrant" they looked at me like I was from another planet. I am a 53-year-old white man certainly not a member of the group we know is causing the terrorist problems around the world but that did not matter.

When I informed them, that as a US Citizen, I was protected by the 4th amendment from a search without a search warrant they said it was an FAA regulation.

They could not comprehend that the US Constitution supersedes some FAA scum.

Don't give me any of the "in the interest of security" crap... Every time the government wants to overstep its bounds they use the "in the interest of security" scam.

The government knows the culprits but because of the heat they would take from the PC crowd, they don't dare get rid of this 3rd world trash.

The government would rather harass life long citizens than do any profiling of people who obviously care more about their cult than the USA.

This is the one and only time I wish Janet Reno was still AG. She had a unique way of eliminating people who had a belief different from hers.

[911]

The House actually did adopt a rule a few years ago requiring committee reports to cite the constitutional authority for the bill in question.

Each report of a committee on a public bill or public joint resolution shall contain the following: (1) A statement citing the specific powers granted to Congress in the Constitution to enact the law proposed by the bill or joint resolution.

Needless to say, it has had little effect, except to prove that you can rationalize absolutely anything.

[ridensm]

I'm with you all the way. An easy case can be made that all 10 of the Bill of Rights are either completely undone or well on their way.

[Jefferson Adams]

So the question is: Why do so few people care?

a) because it's been so incremental (boiling frog syndrome)

b) it hasn't bitten them yet, at least with a bite that hurts

As to "b" - it will. And when they realize it, it will be too late. It probably already is.

[Jefferson Adams]

There was a bill once which required the federal government to cite the Constitutional justification for all laws. It failed, of course. I think it was Sen. John Glen that said of this bill, then we wouldn't be able to do 95% of what we do.

You are correct. Amazing.

[Jefferson Adams]

When I informed them, that as a US Citizen, I was protected by the 4th amendment from a search without a search warrant they said it was an FAA regulation. They could not comprehend that the US Constitution supersedes some FAA scum.

This is interesting. In all liklihood, you would have been incorrect pre-9/11, but you are probably correct now that the screeners are fedgov employees.

When they were employed by the airlines, your argument would not have washed, because the Constitution only limits the government, not a private entity like an airline. But now that they're officially feral employees, I do believe that you are correct.

[Wurlitzer]

You are spot on Jefferson. While I resented the intrusion when these were private firms, I now demand my constitutional rights from Federal Thugs

[Darth Sidious]

Slavery never went away. The slavers merely found new ways to hold us captive.

And at this point it's getting to be considered treason to ask aloud if there is a Nat Turner or John Brown among us...

[CWRWinger]

"The slavers merely found new ways to hold us captive."

Exactly! The War of Northern Agression was a war against not only the South, but the Constitution and all people within the territory of the USA, North, South, East and West. It was a turning point to tyranny. It was the setting up of big government which catagorically ignores the Constitution. And it was an educational tool to show what happens to those who oppose the new tyranny.

[NetValue]

You wrote: "But now that they're officially feral employees, I do believe that you are correct."

Did you make that error deliberately? I hope so. What a hoot!

[taxbreak2]

I just got back from South East University in Washington, DC and the Internet Room is closed until further notice.

Do I get a bump on this?

Is this an isolated occurance or is the "gubernut" extending cencorship to publicly funded libraries in the name of national security?

Any Freepers care to look into this?

[maestro]

Constitution- Who Cares

The Welfare International Corporate State vs The Small-Local-Family business?

Whose vested interest 'is' vested against the 'other'?

[billbears]

This kind of post is tiresome and useless. NNN It is the kind of jargon that never advances anything specific and only attempts to mislead and misinform. It is a complex world. You may not like, but little in life does not require a national policy

You know there was a time in this nation when it DIDN'T require a national policy. If you want to live in an empire fine, some of us would like to have our Consitutional Republic back. And just because you don't apparently agree with the ideals put forth in this article does not mean it's misinformation

[mysterio]

Hear, hear!