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Draping History. Ashcroft orders semi-nude statues covered.
ABC News ^ | January 25, 2002 | Beverley Lumpkin

Posted on 01/26/2002 10:00:54 AM PST by John Jorsett

W A S H I N G T O N, Jan. 25 — About three weeks ago, I received a tip. The attorney general was fed up with having his picture taken during events in the Great Hall in front of semi-nude statues.

He had ordered massive draperies to conceal the offending figures. But initially not only could the story not be confirmed — it was strongly denied.

As some of you may know the Justice Department building was constructed during the 1930s as a WPA project, completed in 1934. The artwork and fittings were strongly influenced by the Art Deco movement. Much of the ornamentation in the building is made of aluminum, apparently a big Art Deco feature.

The Great Hall is basically what it sounds like — a large, even grand, two-story room used for department events and ceremonies. The formal entrance up a winding stairway is adorned with murals depicting great figures in the history of law, including Moses, Hammurabi, and John Marshall.

At the opposite end of the hall, on either side of the stage, are two enormous and stylized but largely naked aluminum statues. On the left, the female figure represents the Spirit of Justice; the male on the right is the Majesty of Justice. The male is clad in only a cloth draped over his essential parts; the female wears a sort of toga-style garment, but one breast is entirely exposed. She's been fondly referred to for years by at least some as "Minnie Lou."

And she's the one the photographers seek out. The most famous pictures of all were shot when former U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese proudly released the final report of his commission on pornography. No one in the Great Hall that day could ever forget the spectacle of the still photographers writhing on the floor, flat on their backs, in order to grab the shot of Meese holding up the porn report with Minnie Lou's breast over his shoulder.

So there were some who wondered how Attorney General John Ashcroft, known as a strongly religious and conservative man, would get along with the figures once he became attorney general.

For a long time he didn't seem to mind. But last November he and Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson staged a major event in the Great Hall, to announce their plans for restructuring the Justice Department to address the new challenge of fighting terrorism. Many papers the next day used a photo of the attorney general with — you guessed it — Minnie Lou and that breast right over his shoulder.

According to my original tipster, that was the final straw for Ashcroft, and he ordered that the statues henceforth be draped.

Public affairs people however denied any such thing. They stoutly maintained that the attorney general had never complained and that no draperies had been ordered. They pointed out that periodically, through different administrations, draperies were sometimes rented for particular events.

They noted that former spokeswoman Mindy Tucker always hated the statues; Mindy told me Thursday it was her view that half the women in the department were offended by them and the other half considered them art.

Well, I guess this is a lot of background to get to the point: the draperies have in fact been ordered. Minnie Lou and her mate now can only be imagined. The draperies installed last week at a cost of just over $8,000.

And it turns out that they were indeed ordered by someone in the attorney general's office, who delivered the request to the Justice Management Division and asserted it was the attorney general's desire. I'm told she was the only person in the attorney general's office who knew about it. She's his advance person, and she said it was done for "aesthetic purposes" — she just thought it would look better when staging events in the Great Hall.

So now it appears that rather than making an occasional appearance, the draperies are here to stay — unless and until someone has the temerity to request an event without them.


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Sounds like a case of assuring a non-hostile work environment to me. The leftists should be quite happy, assuming that they're consistent.
1 posted on 01/26/2002 10:00:55 AM PST by John Jorsett
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... agreed ... the leftists should be quite happy ...
2 posted on 01/26/2002 10:08:13 AM PST by _Jim
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the leftists should be quite happy

Bah, a happy leftist is an oxymoron.

3 posted on 01/26/2002 10:13:47 AM PST by krb
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What are the statues going to look like with their new "clothes"? Seems excessive to me, but as you say, its just taking the "lets not display anything which will offend anybody" idea to its logical conclusion.
4 posted on 01/26/2002 10:14:53 AM PST by Youngblood
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Sadly this will play big with the media.

Couldn't Justice have done something else, like use another room? They simply have got to rev up their thinking on these matters.

5 posted on 01/26/2002 10:15:05 AM PST by aculeus
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This is pretty funny. I wonder when the Pope will have bathing suits painted on those people on the ceiling in the Sistine Chapel.
6 posted on 01/26/2002 10:23:59 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Youngblood
get over it. he didn't ask for them to be removed. the man has a right to his own opinion and to follow his conscience. I wish you lefties would get over your control issues.
7 posted on 01/26/2002 10:25:06 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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Stupid. The American people recognize that sculpture is art and the only ones who are tittilated by these antics are the reporters themselves. When the general American public sees a piece of statuary like this they either recognize it as art or don't even notice it as just part of the background.

It's stupid to let the press manipulate you into something like this over something that only exists in their minds.
8 posted on 01/26/2002 10:26:08 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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Well I guess I was right. Ashcroft is a dork. parsy.

(BTW, why didn't somebody throw a blanket over Janet Reno???)

9 posted on 01/26/2002 10:29:22 AM PST by parsifal
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They noted that former spokeswoman Mindy Tucker always hated the statues; Mindy told me Thursday it was her view that half the women in the department were offended by them and the other half considered them art.
,br> Well, I guess this is a lot of background to get to the point: the draperies have in fact been ordered. Minnie Lou and her mate now can only be imagined. The draperies installed last week at a cost of just over $8,000.


Now Ashcroft will have succeeded in doing the attempted work of the leftist media by portraying himself as a complete idiot. Also, one half of the women in the offices consider the statues art; the other half are just plain nuts.
10 posted on 01/26/2002 10:32:06 AM PST by aruanan
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To: John Jorsett
It must be Saturday.....
11 posted on 01/26/2002 10:33:04 AM PST by The Wizard
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At first I thought this must be a story in The Onion, but it is ABC news.
12 posted on 01/26/2002 10:34:30 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: RAT Patrol
You label me a leftist controller based on...?
15 posted on 01/26/2002 10:40:49 AM PST by Youngblood
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To: John Jorsett
Finally, a man to stand up for decency in art! I've started to wonder if I'm alone with my view that these semi-nude statues and paintings are just plainly offensive, no matter how accepted they have become over the centuries on the walls of Roman Catholic churches.
16 posted on 01/26/2002 10:41:38 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: tex-oma
30 years from now will find out he wore womens underwear under his suit.
17 posted on 01/26/2002 10:42:47 AM PST by gjenkins
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Well, I guess it's a good thing they weren't planning to host the leaders of Afghanistan--it would have been more expensive to make a full-body drapery for the statues and a beard for the male one; not to mention the changing of the sword of justice for an AK-47 and chiseling off the word "justice". I am sure they wouldn't want to offend anyone.
18 posted on 01/26/2002 10:42:52 AM PST by Great Wombat
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The problem seems that photographers were deliberately seeking out the titilating overtones, leading to a justified covering up. If they hadn't created the problem, the artwork would remain on display.
19 posted on 01/26/2002 10:49:05 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Paleo Conservative
At first I thought this must be a story in The Onion, but it is ABC news.

I thought the same. I keep forgetting which one makes up their news...

I thought it was a silly story until I clicked the link and looked at the picture. I can't really say that I blame him. The media is just immature enough to always be able to say "look, there's a boob in the picture..."

But I guess Ashcroft would have problem with the Seal of Virginia which also appears on the flag.

20 posted on 01/26/2002 10:49:31 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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