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To: UberVernunft
"Feynman diagrams are just that -- a conceptual convenience. Anyone who has spent time expanding out the n-order approximation to a typical quantum field calculation will appreciate this.

They are a conceptual convenience, but only insofar as they allow easy tracking of the integrals needed for the complete calculation. The diagrams and the integrals do represent reality however. The evidence is in the accuracy and precision obtained from the calculations in their description of reality. For instance the description of the lamb shift in the hydrogen atom.

The radiation from a black hole also indicates the validity of the reality behind the integrals represented by the Feynman diagrams. The radiation amounts to pair production out of the vacuum, where a net capture of antimatter occurs.

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34 posted on 01/24/2002 10:15:01 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
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35 posted on 01/24/2002 10:16:43 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
They are a conceptual convenience, but only insofar as they allow easy tracking of the integrals needed for the complete calculation. The diagrams and the integrals do represent reality however.

Of course.

55 posted on 01/24/2002 11:21:16 AM PST by UberVernunft
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To: spunkets
The diagrams and the integrals do represent reality however. The evidence is in the accuracy and precision obtained from the calculations in their description of reality.

The calculations are part of a theoretical description. Integrals are mathematical entities, with no necessary link to any physical phenomena. The important aspect of this is the theory used in desribing the phenomena.

You could use a purely numerical approach in calculating these effects without ever utilizing a Feynman diagram or an integral.

56 posted on 01/24/2002 11:30:01 AM PST by UberVernunft
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