Posted on 01/21/2002 6:28:01 AM PST by VinnyTex
And do you know what ELSE is like beating a dead horse? Trying to teach anti-Catholic smear artists like Viva and faith_j the truth about the Catholic Church. They don't know because they don't want to know. Why would they want to interrupt a really good hate?
Your second paragraph of article 8, which we just 'have to' read, doesn't say what you imply. Sorry about that 'facts' thing backfiring on you.
Be sure to ping me to your anti-anglican rant.
Hitler found quite fertile ground for his anti-Semitic poison in the majority Lutheran culture that was early 20th Century Germany.
If I start believing hearsay, they take away my lawyer card. Please cite which laws you want me to prove no longer exist. And also, please post examples of the language of these banned circulars. They could be anything from kindhearted goodwill to Jack Chick slanders. It would make a difference.
Lol ... aw, that was almost too easy.
I wonder if she's in favor of "faith-based" partnerships and US "Holy Wars" and our President's use of Scripture (from his "favorite philosopher") to found his decision to use already been killed human lives for federally funded research?
I'm not up on the current movement to petition the Church to make a pro-abort stand (as taken by a public politician) grounds for excommunication so I can't really speak to the arguments they're using.
I do know that such a movement would unfair preclude the "religious" -- such as the radical nuns behind "Network" -- from being excommunicated as they are careful always to avoid the subject of abortion as they seek to influence the political views of ignorant faithful by selectively quoting from legitimate Catholic teaching.
My guess is that such partaking of the sacraments -- if truly in error due to the malformed conscience or ignorance of the Catholic -- is a case of "invincible ignorance". Where the Catholic is purposefully disobeying his conscience and the teaching of the Church both with respect to abortion AND the partaking of sacraments while under a cloud of grave or mortal sin ... I think the act could be described as "unlawful".
This is how a Mass would be treated if the priest took liberties with the liturgy clearly outside the precepts of the sacrifice. The Mass is still valid but is has been celebrated "unlawfully".
I suppose by this reasoning, one leaves room for the operation of the sacrament (affording the necessary graces by which a Catholic in error might right himself) but under a cloud of illicitness that attaches only to the Catholic himself, not the sacrament.
I'll bet one of the other more well-catechized Catholics might know better than I. So, I'm pinging Eastsider, Romulus and Campion for starters.
(Can you imagine the look on her face when she comes before the throne?)
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