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Supreme Court Won't Hear Case on Teaching Evolution
Fox News & Associated Press ^ | 07 January 2002 | AP Staff

Posted on 01/07/2002 3:16:27 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court declined Monday to be drawn into a debate over the teaching of evolution in America's public schools.

The refusal is a victory for schools that require teachers to instruct on the subject even if the teacher disagrees with the scientific theory.


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To: gore3000
"I am not surprised to see you blatantly lie. All the evolutionists seem to be quite adept at it."

But the real question is "why do you validate them by attempting to debate fools, and liars?"

Those who preach the Religion of Evolution are on a par with the "scientists" that salted the Lynx hair on the scratching posts.

121 posted on 01/07/2002 6:56:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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This is what LeVake told ABC in an interview last year:

"I'd like an evolutionist to look me in the eye," he says, "and tell me one thing about evolution that is true."

122 posted on 01/07/2002 6:57:56 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: Stultis
Lets Rethink this?
123 posted on 01/07/2002 6:59:31 PM PST by keithtoo
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To: Dimensio
They were renamed "pulsars" after it was discovered that they were actually a type of star -- an example of scientists noting and correcting the mistakes of the past.

Thus if SETI finds something, it will still be subject to intense scrutiny.

It did not take long to determine they were naturally occurring.

I fully concur. If SETI actually finds a signal, it will be intensely scrutinized! There is a very specific and quite rigorous set of requirements for a signal to be determined as a valid non-terrestrial artificially generated signal.

124 posted on 01/07/2002 7:00:44 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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And this from the CSM in 1999: Not only did he question the veracity of evolution, but the high school teacher also introduced his class to "intelligent design theory" - the notion that the complexity of the physical universe is in itself proof of the existence of an intelligent creator.
125 posted on 01/07/2002 7:06:35 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: PatrickHenry
How man lateral regions does your brain have?
126 posted on 01/07/2002 7:11:05 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: gore3000; ThinkPlease; RadioAstronomer; VadeRetro; PatrickHenry
Same old Stultis, only insults but no refutations. That man did not descend from monkeys is now well proven and well acknowledged scientific fact and you are a very dishonest person for insulting me when you know I am telling the truth.

However, I am not surprised to see you blatantly lie. All the evolutionists seem to be quite adept at it. [emphasis added]

Nicely done, G3k; it only took you SEVEN replies on this thread before you accused someone of "insulting" you, and "lying."

I have the honor to inform you that you have exceeded my wildest expectations: earlier this evening, after noting your return to the CREVO threads, I FReep-mailed a fellow Freeper and asked if anyone wanted to bet how long it would be before G3K accused someone of committing "slanders" ("insulting") against him, and resorted to your standard "victimhood" routine. I opined that you wouldn't last more than a dozen replies before you reverted to your usual tactic, but not even I would have guessed that you'd be back in form in only SEVEN whole replies!

I must say, Gore old boy, you really have impressed me this time. You are without a doubt one of the most predictable stimulus-response machines I've ever encountered on the 'net.

127 posted on 01/07/2002 7:11:40 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Exnihilo
It's up to you to present the theory with evidence. The burden of proof rests with the affirmative side. Please post the evidence. You might start with an example of something that is not-designed compared to something that is designed.
128 posted on 01/07/2002 7:14:42 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Dimensio
"I can't really address the other points in your posting, but I must point out that this is not a part of the theory of evolution.

Not specifically. However, if God created life, then the simplest and most reasonable explanation for the vast variety of species is that God did it. There would be no need for the convoluted garbage that evolutionists try to pass off as "proof" that God did not do it.

129 posted on 01/07/2002 7:18:06 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Dimensio
"Bait-and-switch.

No not bait and switch. Evolution is atheistic and you see it everywhere in the statements of evolutionists. Evolution is against God, it tries to disprove that God has anything to do with the world. It directly contradicts the words of the Bible that God created man, and all life in it.

130 posted on 01/07/2002 7:23:55 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
"I can't really address the other points in your posting, but I must point out that this is not a part of the theory of evolution.

Not specifically. However, if God created life, then the simplest and most reasonable explanation for the vast variety of species is that God did it. There would be no need for the convoluted garbage that evolutionists try to pass off as "proof" that God did not do it.


I would assume that the motives and methods of a god who created life would likely be beyond human understanding, but that's just me.

Regardless, evolution deals only with existing life and how that life came about -- even if its origins are divine -- is not a factor for evolution.
131 posted on 01/07/2002 7:24:05 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: editor-surveyor
"But the real question is "why do you validate them by attempting to debate fools, and liars?" "

Good question. The answer is that one cannot allow lies to go without response. I am not validating them, I am challenging them with the truth. Their insults and subterfuges prove them wrong better than I can.

132 posted on 01/07/2002 7:29:57 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Nebullis
"I'd like an evolutionist to look me in the eye," he says, "and tell me one thing about evolution that is true." '

Oh my, what a hideous person! He dares to question the petty god Darwin before whom all are supposed to fall on their knees and ....

Don't see you giving us any examples of the truth of evolution. Guess you agree that he is correct or perhaps you fail to respond to his query because you know that evolution is a hoax?

133 posted on 01/07/2002 7:34:30 PM PST by gore3000
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To: longshadow
Nicely done, G3k; it only took you SEVEN replies on this thread before you accused someone of "insulting" you, and "lying."

It only took one response from an evolutionist to insult me. I will defend myself.

Now - as for the meat of my statement - that man has been proven not to descend from monkeys and that it is a blatant lie to insult me for saying it -

PROVE ME WRONG instead of sliming me.

134 posted on 01/07/2002 7:39:16 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
It is time for conservatives to realize that those 9 old fools are our enemy and the enemy of the Constitution we hold dear.

Sounds like you are talking about the guys who selected Bush as president.

135 posted on 01/07/2002 7:39:52 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Doctor Stochastic
",i>It's up to you to present the theory with evidence.

It is up to evolutionists to prove that their theory is true, not for others to prove it untrue. Intelligent design is a criticism of evolution. Evolutionists have never been able to show that either their theory is true or that the criticism of intelligent design - that nothing as complex as a living being can be created at random - is untrue. The idiot Dawkings trying to disprove the undisprovable goes into such idiocies as saying that mountains with some features that can be imagined as representing something man made are the same as Mt. Rushmore. The arguments of evolution against intelligent design criticism are totally idiotic. One writer for example asked if a hurricane going through a waste dump would create a Boeing 747. Obviously it would not. Neither would random forces create anything as complex as a human being or even a fly which is millions of times more complex than a 747.

136 posted on 01/07/2002 7:47:56 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"Sounds like you are talking about the guys who selected Bush as president. "

The American people ELECTED BUSH President. All the SC court did was to stop the blatant election theft going on in Florida and the mockery of the Constitution being perpetrated by the Democrats.

Clearly, you are not only an atheist, but also a Clintonite.

137 posted on 01/07/2002 7:50:45 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
PROVE ME WRONG instead of sliming me.

How many times do we have to remind you that the burden of proof lies on he who makes the assertion?

It was true last spring, it was true all summer and fall. It will still be true for all time in the future.

The burden is YOURS to PROVE what you claim is PROVEN, not for someone else to DISPROVE it.

Oh, just as a reminder, you haven't forgotten that scientific theories are never "proven" have you?

Thanks for being so predictable. We truly enjoy your fantasy about being "insulted" and "slimed" and all the other victimology terminology you are so prone to bandy about.

Oh, yes; on last thing. You cleverly tried to change the subject. You accused someone of "insulting" you after only seven replies from you on this thread (as predicted by me), when, in fact, they didn't insult you at all. They merely stated a fact.

If you would have us believe that a "fact" can insult you, then you really must not be very well connected to reality.

138 posted on 01/07/2002 7:53:19 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Dimensio
"I would assume that the motives and methods of a god who created life would likely be beyond human understanding, but that's just me. "

It is evolutionists that try to take God out of the equation, not creationists. Evolutionists also try to tell us that the method used by God to create life is -
1. Contrary to what the Bible says.
2. is completely absent the hand of God anywhere.

Creationism does not ascribe anything to God other than what He said in His Word - the Bible. There are English editions of it which are quite easy to understand for those who wish to read it.

139 posted on 01/07/2002 7:56:45 PM PST by gore3000
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To: longshadow
"How many times do we have to remind you that the burden of proof lies on he who makes the assertion?"

Evolutionists made that assertion a hundred years ago. If there is proof of it yet, give it. If not, you are a liar. Always when presented with facts, you seek to avoid giving proof. Well, you call your garbage theory science, let's see the proof instead of insults and sophistry. Time to put up or shut up with your insults. You and your friend insulted me for my statement. Give the proof that you are not an abominable, despicable slimer attacking people for telling the truth.

140 posted on 01/07/2002 8:01:32 PM PST by gore3000
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