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Planned Parenthood funding threatened [Why is it tax-funded to being with?]
The Herald Palladium (St. Joseph-Benton Harbor Michigan The Newspaper for Southwest Michigan) ^ | 1-5-2002 | LYNN STEVENS

Posted on 01/07/2002 9:36:18 AM PST by Notwithstanding

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To: Notwithstanding
Someday people are going to realize that Planned Parenthood is carrying out the objective of its founder, Margaret Sanger, i.e. to wipe out the non-white races.

Sure, they'll take a few white people along with them, but they just consider them "collateral damage".

41 posted on 01/07/2002 6:59:38 PM PST by jackbill
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To: madg
change the legal definition of “public health,” then I respectfully suggest that you get to work.

Yes, how? Start a revolution? The criminals in the SC made a mockery of our Constitution by declaring abortion a right and taking the matter out of democratic politics.

42 posted on 01/07/2002 7:01:13 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
It is unbelievable into what contortions the writer goes to in order to make the reader go through tons of propaganda before he can get to find out what the bill says.

You expected no less. Or more, rather.

43 posted on 01/07/2002 7:05:52 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Republic of Texas
ping to another thread
44 posted on 01/08/2002 10:58:12 AM PST by toenail
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To: toenail
Serial killing in the name of public health! Amazing, isn't it? And there are too many people willing to accept that lie in order to keep their options open if they just might need to hire a serial killing. Public health?... Since when is serial killing listed in that category?... Since 1973! Killing is improving health, don'tcha know!
45 posted on 01/08/2002 5:02:54 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Tribune7
Roe v. Wade, if strictly interpreted, would prohibit public funding for abortion since public funding for abortion is a form of societal intervention in reproduction - - the very thing prohibited by Roe v. Wade.
46 posted on 01/08/2002 5:07:22 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: madg
"Every doctor" is a practitioner, not a freestanding, tax-free "public health organization." If you have evidence of PP's complicity in murder (or any other criminality), then I suggest that you contact your local law enforcement agency.

Again, a woman capable of giving birth points to a healthy reproductive system in all probability. I can sense your smugness as you typed 'public health organization' within the quotes; indeed you folks have become bold in your application of Orwellian newspeak.

If you have evidence of PP's complicity in murder

Just do us a favor and keep documenting your crimes. Your ideological cousins made the same mistake.

48 posted on 01/08/2002 5:19:21 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: madg
How about some reasonable scissors control measures? Think they would limit the serial killing technique known as partial birth abortion? Wonder where the trigger lock would go on the scissors, to prevent the 'healthcare provider' from stabbing the little one in the back of the head, then spreading the blades to insert the cannula?
49 posted on 01/08/2002 5:20:12 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Notwithstanding; Tribune7; GenXFreedomFighter; toenail; Cicero; Wolfie; IM2Phat4U; Surge-on...
The so-called empowerment of women and rights of women have been appropriated by a few to mean rights of the few and no longer means an individual woman’s right to equal treatment. Some would emphasize the "inalienable right" of women to decide whether or not to bear a child. This has the effect of defining women as reproductive units rather than as human beings. Real women’s rights would emphasize greater opportunities for education and employment instead of emphasizing a cult of fertility which leads to economic dependency on men and the rest of society, including homosexual men and women who do not reproduce.

The inaccuracies concerning the political economy of sex as portrayed by pro-"choice" advocates deserve a thorough review: Reproductive "choice" is made when two heterosexual people decide to engage in adult relations, not after the fact. The desire to have children is a heterosexual desire. Provided it is a consenting relationship, no woman is forced to become pregnant. Modern science and capitalism (see: Ayn Rand’s Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal and Camille Paglia’s Sexual Personae) have provided methods to give women pre-emptive power over the forces of nature. No woman has control over her body; only nature does. It is modern Western Civilization that gives women power over nature, not Roe v. Wade. [Incidentally, Roe v. Wade, if strictly interpreted, would prohibit public funding for abortion since public funding for abortion is a form of societal intervention in reproduction - - the very thing prohibited by Roe v. Wade.] One may reply Roe v. Wade is part of a larger good called "women’s rights," but this is really a disguise, consigning other women (those who don’t reproduce or those who oppose abortion) to second class citizenship.

This topic is applicable to homosexuality, both the male and female variety, as well as to sexual crimes. The choice to engage in any type of sexual activity is an individual’s, provided of course, he or she is not victim of a sexual assault. It is absurd to claim the rapist has no control over his actions and it is equally ridiculous to say a homosexual does not have a choice not to involve him or herself with another. The same is true for heterosexual females - - being a woman is not an excuse for making poor choices. The idea that "the choice to have an abortion should be left up to a woman" does not take into account the lack of a choice to pay for such services rendered: The general public is forced to pay massive subsidies for other people sex lives. Emotive claims that the decision to have an abortion is a private one is refuted by the demands of those same people who want public funding for their private choices and/or mistakes.

An adult male or female can be sent to the penitentiary for engaging in carnal pleasures with a minor. One female schoolteacher had become the focus of national attention because she produced a child with her juvenile student. She went to prison while pregnant the second time from the very same child student. Courts allowing a minor female to have an abortion without parental consent or notification can destroy evidence of a felony (such as molestation, rape or incest). Those courts and judges therein have become complicit in the destruction of evidence and are possible accessories in the commission of a felony.

Another source of amazement is the concept of those who hold candlelight vigils for heinous murderers about to be executed, a large number of whom think it is acceptable to murder an unborn child without the benefit of a trial. Is the "right to life" of one responsible for much murder and mayhem more important than that of a truly innocent unborn child? Perhaps we should call capital punishment "post-natal abortion" and identify abortion as a "pre-natal death sentence" or "pre-natal summary execution." Your "reproductive freedom" is my economic and environmental tyranny.

50 posted on 01/08/2002 5:21:16 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: madg
Please help me understand your assertion.

My assertation is that your leadership (the Sangerite Nazis) should stand trial someday for crimes against humanity. I hope I live to see that day.

52 posted on 01/08/2002 5:43:07 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: madg
Your post suggests that you are not in favor of "reasonable gun-control measures." Do you use the "individual rights/protection from the tyranny of the majority" argument to support that position?

There is no such thing as "reasonable" anything as long as liberals/ socialists lurk.

There is no reasoning, or compromising with them. Everything comes down to what they ultimately want, and they'll resort to terms such as "it's now a living document", or "public health agencies" to get what they want.

Then, if people resist such notions, it's time to label them as "extremists" deserving of "investigation", as Clinton and the rest of the liberal mobsters demonstrated for eight years, and tried to carry beyond with the attempt to install the "People's Republic of Chad" during the Florida Recounts.

Such people are to never be trusted, and never to be bargained with.

53 posted on 01/08/2002 5:51:29 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: madg
Time and time again they show the lengths they are willing to go to to squelch any and all opposition; whether it be NOW and Planned Parenthood types setting up "buffer zones" around abortion clinics, or NPR reporters suggesting FBI involvement against a religious group because it dared to disseminate information critical to liberals.

Liberals are nothing more than totalitarians wearing different clothing for a different time. Same ideology, same tactics, same old deceptions.

54 posted on 01/08/2002 5:56:38 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: madg
Well, now you know how I feel. What do you think about post 50? You're going to have trouble with that one.
55 posted on 01/08/2002 6:04:32 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: madg
Dredd Scott was also a Judicial decision, from that same level of the Court. The Court can be wrong, and a wrong decision can hold for years.

There is no "public health" provision in the Constitution either. You draw your lines of allowed government to protect your own whims, not any law or rationality based on law or necessity.

By your own line as drawn, any acupuncturist or massage therapist merely need establish as a non-profit organization serving the public to qualify for the cornucopia of government grants.

But that would not be what you mean, and you might then resort to further circumscription, all to the point of allowing that Planned Abortionhood is a justified beneficiary of our tax dollars, and we imprisoned by our government police should we refuse to pay them.

You see yourself for a grand advocate of rationality and public health, yet you are not.

Nor indeed are birth control and abortion public health issues -- the issue really is childbearing, which throughout history was ever highly risky for a woman. That a given society at least maintain its population is the public concern that makes childbearing more than just an individual health issue.

Today, childbearing is far safer than ever in history by a large margin, why then the emphasis on avoiding it? It is a great blessing to us all, and a mother especially.

56 posted on 01/08/2002 6:05:12 PM PST by bvw
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To: madg
... I'm just stating the obvious. ...
... I doubt that anyone will ever convince me ...
... I'm astonished that anyone would try to make that argument. ...
... that is simply not true. ...

Sorry, madg, but Ego alone does not win arguments.

58 posted on 01/08/2002 6:51:06 PM PST by bvw
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To: madg
Let me ask you this: Why is there a Planned Parenthood? I mean, just what did people do before it?
59 posted on 01/08/2002 7:00:31 PM PST by bvw
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