[11th Earl of Mar]

Since Western people were able to hold and develop their beliefs, and hence build a great civilization, at least partly because they were Christian, does it not stand to reason that mass immigration of non-Christian people into Western lands coupled with massive decreases in Christians' birth rates (not to mention apostasy rates) threatens Western Civilization?

Yes. But immigration of Christians [both Catholic and Charasmatic] from Mexico and Central America would NOT threaten Western civilization, correct?

Personally, I would rather have a practicing Catholic family from Mexico live next door to me in America than a white, non-Christian European family from a 'Christian' nation like Bosnia.

[Sorry for the belated response. I just returned today from vacation.]

[traditionalist]

Since Western people were able to hold and develop their beliefs, and hence build a great civilization, at least partly because they were Christian, does it not stand to reason that mass immigration of non-Christian people into Western lands coupled with massive decreases in Christians' birth rates (not to mention apostasy rates) threatens Western Civilization?

Yes.

Good. You just agreed with half of Pat's points. His book is just as much about Europe as it is about America, and in Europe, the vast majority of immigrants are Moslem or pagan. So at least as far as Europe is concerned, you agree that immigration threatens Western civilization.

You would also have to agree then that immigration of Buddists and Shintoists from the Far East, Hindus from South Asia, as well as Mohammedans from places like Pakistan and Egypt, threatens Western civilization in the US. The non-Christian element of US immigration is the one growing the fastest.

You also have to consider the fact that a high percentage of Latin Americans who come to the US leave the Church.

But immigration of Christians [both Catholic and Charasmatic] from Mexico and Central America would NOT threaten Western civilization, correct?

Only if you believe that religion is all there is to Western Civilization. Are you so sure there is nothing more to it? Think about this question, and then we'll discuss why immigration from Latin America to the US threatens Western Civilization.

Personally, I would rather have a practicing Catholic family from Mexico live next door to me in America than a white, non-Christian European family from a 'Christian' nation like Bosnia.

Bosnian Serbs and Croats actually are quite devote on the whole.

If you were to replace Bosnia with France, I would agree with your sentiment. Western Europe is becoming an atheist land, which is why I would oppose immigration from there just as much, perhaps more, than immigration from Latin America.