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To: sauropod
but the gist was that, at a public meeting, the FS announced that they were going to make the Routt a lynx study area. When the audience pointed out that there was nothing for them to eat, the FS replied, "Ya, so what?" It isn't really about lynx; it's about banning motorized vehicles, chainsaws, hunting, etc.

Perhaps. Please understand, I'm not denying that it could be a fraud by the FS people. But after reading the Seattle Times story, the original story from the Wash. Times - where the claim of hair placed on the scratching posts first appeared - suddenly set off my BS detectors.

Do you think the hair was placed on the scratching posts, or was it put into sample vials?

11 posted on 12/31/2001 10:14:09 PM PST by jennyp
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To: jennyp, kitchen, Carry_Okie, backhoe, AuntB, marsh2, forest, farmfriend
re: Post # 11.

The Hudson piece includes confessions from USFS insiders that they planted the evidence. Smoking gun.

I had the opportunity to exhaustively review and take apart the USFS DEIS for the "Roadless Area Conservation" initiative that His Slickness (in concert w/ the greens) implemented through executive order in the closing days of Term 2.

In that document, Reed Noss (the guy who cooriginated the idea of island biogeography and ecosystems [read "fragmented" "core areas" "Zones of cooperation", etc.]) was quoted extensively.

This was presented as an authoritative source, regardless of the fact of how Noss is funded to do his "research" nor how flaky and arrogant he is.

How can the general public have faith in land management agencies when the EISs produced are so skewed and that the conclusions that people like Noss present are suspect because of who pays them???

My point Jenny, is that this is not about the "scientific method." It is about corruption and the control of land. Our freedom is inextricably linked to the land.

That's what i am trying to get across. When one has seen case after case of this kind of crap going on, i kinda lose a sense of wonder at the particular mechanics of a particular scandal. That is just a slice of the cow paddy pie.

24 posted on 01/01/2002 5:25:49 AM PST by sauropod
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