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BREAKING: Bush Grants Permanent Trade Status to China
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Posted on 12/27/2001 1:08:54 PM PST by hawaiian

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To: Prodigal Daughter,Black Jade
You and Black Jade communicate exceptionally well with all of us on FR, on the computer!

I detect a high level of intellect and high degree of tenacity with both of you, two traits much more important than knowing all there is to know about computers.

261 posted on 12/30/2001 6:16:50 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: zog,Wallaby,RedBloodedAmerican,golitely,Uncle Bill,Black Jade,ChaseR,Chapita,Nancie Drew,PhiKapMo
There are no references in this reply to any members of the FreeRepublic. The opinions expressed in this reply are mine alone and are not intended to reflect the opinions of any FreeRepublic members, either in favor of or against my opinions

The article offered in this reply is in support of my replies #212,#226,#242,& #248. Please read the article below carefully.

Before presenting the article, it is worth repeating again that in my opinion Bush Sr facilitated the transfer of SDI missile defense tech and operational details to the Russians as President and Vice President via Kirtland AFB. It is likely in my opinion that Bush Sr. also facilitated the transfer of nuke tech (neutron bomb) and the SDI tech to the Chinese at Lawrence Livermore, Los Alamos and Kirtland AFB.

It is abundantly clear that high level govt officials in the FBI, CIA ,Bush administration, Army intelligence, and Senator David Boren of the Senate Intelligence Committee knew about the details for many years.

Bush and Boren in my opinion enabled the transfers(certainly did not try to stop it and they knew) because of policy based on their beliefs and desire for world government. It was high treason in my opinion especially on the part of Bush Sr and Senator Boren.

If not treason it was criminal negligence on their part and on the part of FBI officials because they knew about it and did not try to stop it or prosecute those who they knew were responsible In fact they did not follow up on their sting ops and deliberately ignored the results of investigations of agents in the FBI and CIA. I am confident they, in order to try to save themselves, will not get away with blaming all this on Ames or Hanseen even though they will try if ever hauled to court or before Congress.

FBI Told Of High-Level Spying in Air Force a Decade Ago

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5/26/99 Sources

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FBI Told Of High-Level Spying in Air Force a Decade Ago

Ten years ago, FBI counterintelligence officials were allegedly informed about high-level spying by U.S. Air Force officers, including one working at an Air Force research lab. If this is true, the spies -- who have not been prosecuted -- might have compromised a variety of U.S. weapons secrets, including star wars, and may also have been involved in Chinese spying operations.

The FBI is not talking about it.

by Anthony Kimery

In August, 1989, an East-bloc conventional arms analyst for the U.S. Army Intelligence and Threat Analysis Center (ITAC) met secretly with special agents of the FBI's Counterintelligence Division in Washington, D.C. The analyst turned over information indicating that several Air Force officers may have divulged top secret weapons systems information on U.S. technologies to the KGB and/or other foreign intelligence services, according to reliable sources.

An SR-71 spy plane pilot and an officer involved in the Air Force's particle beam research program were implicated. The officer who allegedly compromised star wars technologies worked at an Air Force weapons lab at Kirtland AFB, which raises questions about the security of weapons labs run directly by military services.

The FBI has not confirmed that an investigation was ever initiated based on the analyst's statement, but SOURCES learned that at least one U.S. lawmaker knew of the allegations and discussed the matter with unspecified FBI officials.

U.S. counterintelligence authorities have acknowledged that they learned from spy rings that other undetected high-level spy rings existing at the time provided the KGB (and perhaps the intelligence services of other governments) top secret information on not only U.S. spying capabilities, but on closely guarded defense technologies as well. Former KGB counterintelligence official Oleg Kalugin (who ran the John Walker spy family in the U.S.) concedes that there were other high-level U.S. spies.

According to a classified 1988 analysis, the U.S. had reason to suspect that the Soviet Union had even penetrated NASA. In the analysis, "It Looks Like the U.S. Shuttle, But ... ," the authors state that "the Soviet and U.S. shuttles have obvious aerodynamic similarities" which "are surely not coincidental."

The secret analysis also states that "whether the resemblance is more than superficial or results from anything more than Soviet study of unclassified U.S. shuttle plans is uncertain. Unlike the U.S. system, however, the engines on the Soviet vehicle are not attached to the shuttle; they are part of the core vehicle, allowing the core version to function without the shuttle attached. Also, the Soviet strap-on boosters are liquid rather than solid-fueled, removing the possibility of the 'O' ring problem that led to the U.S. shuttle disaster in 1986."

The information allegedly turned over to the FBI by the analyst bears a striking resemblance to spying the FBI already investigated involving Chinese operatives attempting to buy U.S. weapons technologies. In SOURCES' recent report, "Chinagate: China Spies Have Yet To Be Brought To Justice," it is revealed that since 1989, dozens of probes of Chinese spies have been conducted by the CIA and the FBI, some jointly, but that none of them have resulted in any arrests.

Based on a 32-page statement the Army analyst provided to the FBI, there was a relationship between an airman convicted of trying to sell secrets about the SR-71 when he worked for the 1st Reconnaissance Squadron at Beal Air Force Base, and an SR-71 pilot.

The convicted officer, Airman 1st Class Bruce Ott, was sentenced to 25 years in prison four years earlier for trying to sell classified information on the SR-71 program to FBI agents posing as KGB operatives in January, 1986.

Ott was a support crewman for (and "close drinking buddy" of) an SR-71 pilot she knew who she claimed made "cryptic" references about having "worked for someone other than the United States," according to the analyst's statement.

Her statement also revealed that Ott made several "suspicious" references to her about having been "set up" to be recruited to spy by the SR-71 pilot and his "partner," a navigator on an SR-71 refueling tanker and a buddy of the Air Force officer who may have compromised star wars technology several years later.

The Air Force officer involved in the Air Force's particle beam research program was recruited to spy when he and an Air Force Major (the "partner" of the SR-71 pilot) were stationed at Chanute AFB in 1983, according to the analyst's information.

The Major was later stationed at a Strategic Air Command (SAC) base in Altus, Oklahoma (a major staging and refueling base for the U.S. Military Southern Command) in a capacity that provided access to sensitive SAC information.

Altus AFB had come up in the FBI probe of China's attempts to buy classified information on AWACS planes from personnel stationed at Tinker AFB near Oklahoma City, according to sources.

Crucial star wars technology may have been compromised by the Air Force officer the former ITAC analyst knew. In personal correspondence to her, the officer indicated he had compromised classified information, according to documents provided to the FBI.

"I now don't know what I've gotten into," the officer stated in a June 4, 1987 letter to the analyst. "More importantly, I am unsure how/if I should break contact ... I may be under a false-flag recruit. It took me long enough to figure it out, but things point to that very distinct possibility."

A "false-flag" recruit is the most complex and dangerous of intelligence operations. It involves the recruitment of an agent who believes he is working for someone else. In the case of the Air Force officer, the analyst speculated he may have believed he was recruited by his fellow officers under the false assumption he was working for the U.S. to ferret out foreign spies, when in fact his recruiters were the spies.

"I'm not vulnerable to money or compromise," the officer confessed in a letter to the analyst, "but I may have allowed my ego and desire to have influence to rule my decisions ... something is up, too many weird things happen/have happened. I cannot protect myself and family against something I can't see."

The officer said he could not discuss the matter on either "secure" or "unsecure" telephones, and never raised the matter further with the analyst.

In one letter, the officer said of the Major: "The most important thing for a HUMINT [Human Intelligence] officer is his/her cover. The next most important thing is maintaining invulnerability to coercion and black mail ... you are on the edge, one wrong slip and you could be on the dark side. I have reason to believe that in the past and now [he] has been incapable of controlling that balance."

The officer's concern that he may have been recruited under a "false-flag" is important given his involvement in the Air Force's research on propagation of neutral particle beams as a Particle Beam Research Officer at the Weapons Technology Branch, Air Force Weapons Laboratory, Air Force Space Technology Center (AFSTC) at Kirtland AFB in New Mexico.

According to a letter of accommodation from the Commander of the AFSTC, the officer was an "engineer who has contributed greatly to the space based neutral particle beam research effort. His creativity and talent have been key factors in advancing the national understanding of neutral particle beam propagation in space. As a result of his research efforts, the SDI has a clearer picture of the mission for particle beam weapons."

Although the Pentagon denies there has ever been any compromise of particle beam technology to the Soviets, the information provided to the FBI by the ITAC analyst gives credence to the fear within the intelligence community that crucial Star Wars technology was indeed compromised.

According to the analyst, the Air Force officer was later stationed in West Germany as an intelligence technical attaché at a time when there were concerns about spy rings referred to by persons prosecuted for espionage.

From 1982 to 1988, Army Warrant Officer James Hall (a signal intelligence specialist for the Army Security Agency) provided valuable signal intelligence data to the Soviets. The Air Force officer referred to by the ITAC analyst began his assignment in Germany during the time Hall was spying for the KGB. Although there is no apparent link between the two, the fact that Hall knew of other spy rings raises question about the analyst's statement pertaining to the Air Force officer.

Hall reportedly told authorities after his arrest that one or more well-placed persons were still providing information to the KGB.

John Walker was quoted by The Washington Post as saying "there are obviously other spy rings out there and other players. The fact that there were cryptographic systems and other types of systems that they didn't want [from me] is clearly evidence that they had other sources."

Kalugin confirmed that other high-level spies were run by the KGB.

Senior counterintelligence officials said they were unaware of the information provided to the FBI ten years ago, but that on the surface it raised legitimate and serious questions which the FBI and the CIA should have thoroughly investigated.

"If they did, and something was there, did the Justice Department consider prosecution?" one official asked. "I mean. . . what happened?"

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265 posted on 12/30/2001 11:46:03 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: zog,Wallaby,RedBloodedAmerican,golitely,Uncle Bill,Black Jade,ChaseR,Chapita,Nancie Drew,PhiKapMo
The link for the article posted in Reply #265 is:<p. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a374c5c44659e.htm
266 posted on 12/30/2001 11:49:53 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Please see replies #265 and #266.
267 posted on 12/30/2001 11:57:51 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: hawaiian
I guess clinton wasn't the only guy in washington

to benefit from chicom blood money huh?

quid pro quo

watch for the names of those inside the beltway who will praise bush for this move....

their hands are dirty too...

quid pro quo

269 posted on 12/31/2001 6:45:51 AM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: 2sheep
"Black Jade is in Beijing and it is too early in the day for that B.J. team to chime in. You'll have to wait until ChiCom offices open."

rofl/to keep the peace - for now/today - I'll not comment - (but, as I've always stated "things change" - -

270 posted on 12/31/2001 11:35:21 AM PST by ChaseR
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To: it'salmosttolate
Please see replies #212,#226,#242,& #248 & #265.

Sorry, I forgot to flag you on these replies.

Happy New Year!

271 posted on 12/31/2001 12:39:40 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Black Jade,sonofliberty2
sonofliberty2, you may be interested in Black JAde's reply #268 pertaining to what the Federal Judge said about the government's coverup and the govt involvement in the Wen Ho Lee case.
272 posted on 12/31/2001 12:43:03 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Black Jade
Henry Kissinger is about as corrupt as a rotten apple full of worms.
273 posted on 12/31/2001 10:40:54 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Askel5
Please see replies #242,248,265,266,212,226.
274 posted on 01/01/2002 12:42:28 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Askel5
Please see replies #242,248,265,266,212,226.
275 posted on 01/01/2002 12:42:29 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner; ThanksBTTT
Will do ... thanks (as always) for your flags and may God continue to protect you and bless you in the coming year as you continue to fight the good fight.
276 posted on 01/01/2002 2:13:59 PM PST by Askel5
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To: ChaseR
BTTT
278 posted on 01/11/2002 2:45:23 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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