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1 posted on 12/19/2001 8:59:00 AM PST by medlarebil
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Interesting article, medlarebil.

And to the rest of you.

How many of you here who posted, took to time to do a little reseach on this subject before you posted? As apposed to posting in complete ignorance on the subject of the article in question.

57 posted on 12/19/2001 11:04:02 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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Barely old enough to buy a drink, Chris Tavelli, 21, got chest surgery to remove his breasts in March and began taking testosterone in May.

The warped use of gender specific pronouns and adjectives in these articles always drives me nuts. Maybe it had its breasts removed, but his in the above sentence is oxymoronic.

These folks who want to mutilate themselves deserve our sympathy. But that doesn't mean we should pander to their delusions.

58 posted on 12/19/2001 11:11:02 AM PST by jimt
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Thank you for not posting pictures.
62 posted on 12/19/2001 11:20:32 AM PST by GSWarrior
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Bonnie Barrett: "I'm not that old-fashioned," she said. "But ... What's wrong with just being butch?"

HAHAHAH! LMAO!!!

An old-fashioned butch lesbian BUMP!

64 posted on 12/19/2001 11:23:10 AM PST by TexRef
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Well this may indeed be true and girls maybe confused these days after 8 years of Hillary Reno and Albright now if they don't look like guys then DAMN!!!
66 posted on 12/19/2001 11:34:10 AM PST by Trueblackman
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The only men are those people having Y chromosomes.

Anything else is a sham or a mutation--i.e., abnormal.

The business of medicine should be to correct abnormalities--not to create them.

71 posted on 12/19/2001 11:42:35 AM PST by Age of Reason
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It's not just the transgendering, but the fact that it's either being done on taxpayer money, or on health insurance plans where private companies (read fellow employees) are forced to pay.
74 posted on 12/19/2001 11:49:10 AM PST by JoeSchem
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Gender Dysphoria Association - another unofficial WOD - dysphoria.

Dr. Michael L. Brownstein

81 posted on 12/19/2001 11:59:26 AM PST by Orual
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Access to transsexual procedures is helping many be true to their chosen gender.

Does anyone else see a tremendous amount of irony in this statement?

Shalom.

85 posted on 12/19/2001 12:04:28 PM PST by ArGee
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But patients at Dimensions do not have to undergo therapy and most are able to start hormone treatment within five weeks of their initial visit, following lab tests and a staff review of the individual case.

Ahh, yes. There must be a staff review.

Wallet big enough?

Check!

Holdings big enough?

Check!

No lawyers among known family and friends?

Check!

Yep. Classic case. We operate at dawn!

Shalom.

86 posted on 12/19/2001 12:06:43 PM PST by ArGee
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San Fran - What a leper colony!
101 posted on 12/19/2001 12:34:23 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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Ya know? Maybe we're going about this all wrong. Maybe it doesn't make sense to walk up to someone who's nuts and say, 'You're nuts!' It certainly doesn't seem to be too effective a way to help people realize that they're nuts. Maybe a different approach is in order.

I suggest that we found an organization called BRAAD. That would be pronounced 'brad' and would stand for 'Bigot and Redneck Alliance Against Defamation.' We will tell the world that we are out of the closet, we are tired of being ridiculed and hiding from who we truly are. Our chant will be, "We're here, we're a$$holes, GET USED TO IT." We'll demand that people stop using negative stereotypes. When people who don't like bigots and rednecks meet, we'll drown them out and interrupt their meetings by throwing hog-jowls and chitlens and muscle shirts all over the place. We'll force the APA to make it an unethical practice to try to help a bigot or redneck be tolerant. We can put out press releases, hold rallies (with lots of Bar-B-Que), and lobby congressmen with a 'Bud' in one hand and a sweet thing in short denim shorts hanging off of the other. We'll convince people we are born this way or beat them to a pulp. Either way we'll change the culture.

Oh, yeah. We also have to get a curriculum together that tells our story in a comprehensive manner from K-12th grade. We can also help universities put together speech codes.

Think anyone would catch on?

After all, why is one person's right to be homosexual more important than another person's right to be a bigot?

Shalom.

102 posted on 12/19/2001 12:35:50 PM PST by ArGee
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What do you call the surgery that turns women into men:

Addadicktome!

106 posted on 12/19/2001 12:38:41 PM PST by TRY ONE
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The gray-haired plastic surgeon has been doing sexual reassignment surgery in The City for more than 20 years. He has done hundreds of mastectomies and metoidioplasties -- the transformation of external female genitals into male (see inset)

EEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!!

Thank you for not including the inset.

118 posted on 12/19/2001 1:12:45 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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OMG, I read the article title thinking that its the ratio between girls to guys and that itll be easier to get dates, but then...oh man....thats gross...not cool...
140 posted on 12/19/2001 3:46:53 PM PST by Shackman
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Gender identity is very real, and for whatever reasons, some people are stuck in the "wrong" body.

If anyone doubts this, they should read "As Nature Made Him," by John Coliptano, a great book.

148 posted on 12/19/2001 8:38:43 PM PST by xm177e2
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158 posted on 12/19/2001 9:34:36 PM PST by VaBthang4
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"Confusing" to say the least! It's not fair when the folks who are confused insist on further confusing those of us who'd rather not know in the first place!

I understand that some women (note I said **some**) women want to be men and that some women want so badly to be men that they are willing to subject themselves to risky surgery and riskier hormone treatments in order to be men.

The puzzling question is why? Often the gays reaffirm their lifestyle by asking who would want to be gay if they truly had a choice, what with the discrimination, the beatings, the immuno-deficiency, why, nobody would choose such a thing which must mean they were "born that way" and had no choice at all.

So I ask, who would want to be a man, what with the discrimination, the humiliations, the constant dissing in the media, the military conscripton and being the person who has to put his ass on the line every time someone threatens your property or loved ones? Surely, the only way I would choose such a lifestyle is if I were "born that way". You know, I'll bet it's genetic!

BTW, since your nick is "liberaldem" in reverse, does this mean you are secretly one or does it mean you're the opposite of one?

166 posted on 12/19/2001 10:49:43 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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WHERES THE BARF ALERT ?
272 posted on 12/20/2001 6:34:29 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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We'll see how many of these women want to be men during the next wartime draft. The proof is in the putting, girls.
291 posted on 12/21/2001 7:58:24 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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