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Seasonal symbols make some people see red
TownHall.com ^ | Monday, December 17, 2001 | by John Leo

Posted on 12/17/2001 2:26:34 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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1 posted on 12/17/2001 2:26:34 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: xsmommy
The city of Pittsburgh invented the term "Sparkle Days" so that no Pittsburgher would have to utter the controversial word "Christmas"

And you have the nerve to call me A jagoff??????

2 posted on 12/17/2001 2:41:52 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1;dubyaismypresident
obviously the Pittsburgh City Council is full of jagoffs to come up with something like this! i had not heard this.
3 posted on 12/17/2001 2:48:57 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: JohnHuang2
How can a society stop at banning just symbols? Once the symbols have been affectively removed, don't you think the next logical step will be the persons who believe Christian ideas?
4 posted on 12/17/2001 3:05:11 AM PST by wjeanw
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To: xsmommy
This allows the most sensitive person in town to set policy

It's obviously time to send these idiots a copy of "Harrison Bergeron." We were warned decades ago that this would happen!

Handicapper-General, indeed! I have something to tell these "sensative idiots". We have a little something we do when relatively benign things upset up...it's called COPING WITH IT! Geezus..this sort of thing pisses me off to no end.
5 posted on 12/17/2001 3:05:49 AM PST by WyldKard
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To: JohnHuang2
We need to "unelect" the officials.
6 posted on 12/17/2001 3:07:54 AM PST by The Raven
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To: JohnHuang2
All of these "Christmas wars" serve only one purpose: to divide and enrage people who would otherwise live together in peace. Vociferous confrontations over such trivial matters are hateful and destructive.

The U.S. Constitution prohibits Congress from making laws regarding an establishment of religion. In the very same amendment, freedom of speech and the press (and, by logical extension, expression in general) are also protected. Prohibitions against free speech, including religious expressions such as "Merry Christmas" are unconstitutional!

I just hope I'm in a safe place when the inevitable backlashes against this shortsighted and stupid rash of attempts to alienate and stir up resentment against religious minorities begin to occur -- and occur they will.

Assaults on anyone's right to religious expression are essentially provocations to much more serious conflicts.

Instead of a sickening, misguided PC campaign to stamp out religious expression, how about a little tolerance and allowing anyone who wants to to express their views? Or is free expression too un-American a concept to be practiced in public places?

Thoroughly disgusted by this nonsense,

Imal

7 posted on 12/17/2001 3:16:51 AM PST by Imal
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To: wjeanw
"...How can a society stop at banning just symbols? Once the symbols have been affectively removed, don't you think the next logical step will be the persons who believe Christian ideas?..."

This is the historical model, of course. Symbols first, and then the people who use them.

Except that, in this place, at this time, millions of those intended victims will respond by returning fire.

8 posted on 12/17/2001 3:36:23 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: JohnHuang2
JohnHuang2, your posts are great. This one in particular and selected others get printed and have my children read and discuss. Thanks for taking the time to do this. You save this homeschooling mom from having to search down all these articles.
10 posted on 12/17/2001 4:07:41 AM PST by Boxsford
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Thanks for taking the time to do this

You're more than welcome. And thanks for being a homeschooling mom =^)

11 posted on 12/17/2001 4:09:30 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
These "senstive" jerks are no better than the talibum. Let's deal with them accordingly.
12 posted on 12/17/2001 4:15:04 AM PST by Robert-J
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To: Robert-J
I hope you are being sacastic. I loath these 'sensitive' people too but the Taliban are in a lower class of their very own. Last I have heard these 'sensitive' ones are not cutting off hands and feet of their enemies--not yet anyway.
13 posted on 12/17/2001 4:20:35 AM PST by Boxsford
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To: JohnHuang2
If one doesn't believe in God, how can Doves, Christmas trees, Santa Clauses, or even manager scenes offend them? After all, if something doesn't exist, how can it be offensive?
14 posted on 12/17/2001 4:32:07 AM PST by ODDITHER
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To: JohnHuang2
When a symbol offends me, I look away, such as the kkk emblem, ect. I see red and seeth, but realize that in a land of the free, they too are entitled. So, to those who oppose American symbols, Christian symbols, do as I do look away and keep moving, while thanking God that we have the privilege to have our symbols, whatever yours might be.
15 posted on 12/17/2001 4:35:23 AM PST by D. Miles
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To: JohnHuang2
Now the battles increasingly involve minorities assaulting majority sensibilities

He's wrong here. The battle has ALWAYS involved minorities assaulting majority sensibilities. (Note I am speaking ideologically and not racially here)

God Save America (Please)

16 posted on 12/17/2001 4:41:39 AM PST by John O
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To: xsmommy; hobbes1
obviously the Pittsburgh City Council is full of jagoffs to come up with something like this! i had not heard this.

What a bunch of jagoffs on that city council. What one nebby complains and yinz get your Christmas replaced by "Sparkle Days."

17 posted on 12/17/2001 4:45:27 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: wjeanw
Once the symbols have been affectively removed, don't you think the next logical step will be the persons who believe Christian ideas?

This is the Thought Patrol!
Please, pull over to the side of that Line....NOW !!

18 posted on 12/17/2001 4:52:13 AM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: dubyaismypresident; hobbes1
so i am guessing there is no creche in dahntahn Pittsburgh. probably sparklers, ya think?
19 posted on 12/17/2001 5:00:38 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: dubyaismypresident; hobbes1
so i am guessing there is no creche in dahntahn Pittsburgh. probably sparklers, ya think?
20 posted on 12/17/2001 5:01:29 AM PST by xsmommy
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