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To: f.Christian
admit some kind of objective social order

No initiation of force or fraud. A social order that is purely objective.

Did you read the George Will article?

Which one?

Ever study social sciences--the "conservative art"?

Social science (euphemism for social engineering) is a conservative art? HAHA! That'll be news to the conservatives on this sight! LOL!

It takes a 3/4 vote to change the constitution but liberals/libertarians are doing it by lies and dollars...routinely-perfectly!

You have no grip on reality. The only person in a position to do so who could be called libertarian (small l) is Ron Paul, and he votes 100% with the Constitution. He even authored a bill to require all bills to site the specific part of the Constitution that authorizes them. YOUR PARTY, in a beautiful example of bi-partisanship, made sure the bill never made it to a vote.

I could start an entire thread highlighting laws both R's and D's have done that violate the Constitution and would require an amendment to be legitimate. But I don't need to, you see, because FR is full of them, every single day of the week.

60 posted on 12/14/2001 12:16:26 PM PST by freeeee
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To: freeeee
Anarchists-libertarianism will result in a police state--social engineering!

The Conservative Art is Adam Smith---enlightened self interest(personal responsibility--LAWS) via the invisible hand---market forces/decisions--freedom...not central control collapse!

62 posted on 12/14/2001 12:26:10 PM PST by f.Christian
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