Posted on 11/30/2001 6:26:23 PM PST by GeneD
Who said they are just going to go after 'foreign terrorists?". What if pro-life groups, pro-gun groups, and FR will be called terrorists.
I judge every proposal like the worst people in the world are going to enforce it.
This reminds me of 1928 Germany. Bush/Ashcroft are the Wiemar Republic. Then there is 2004, and whoever wins there(I have no idea who) will have all these powers. Do you want John Edwards with this power?
The following is the traditon: the F.B.I. cannot send undercover agents to investigate groups that gather at places like mosques or churches unless investigators first find probable cause, or evidence leading them to believe that someone in the group may have broken the law
This is the new reasoning: Since Sept. 11, investigators have said, Islamic militants have sometimes met at mosques apparently knowing that the religious institutions are usually off limits to F.B.I. surveillance squads. Some officials are now saying they need broader authority to conduct surveillance of potential terrorists, no matter where they are.
It seems obvious that if someone is an "Islamic militant" that needs to be watched there is obviously "probable cause" to do so. Why would you need the new "relaxation" unless you just wanted to keep tabs on those that don't politically agree with you.
I smell a hidden agenda here and am concerned.
No, I'm standing my ground. I ripped Klinton and Reno for trying for this in May of 2000, and I'm ripping on Janet Ashcroft for the same thing. Those that trade liberty for security deserve neither. I don't trust Ashcroft. I don't trust power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Ashcroft is returning the FBI to its Hoover status,
I agree. That's not a good thing.
BTW, I'm not certain that Ashcroft is evil--the evidence is mounting, however. I think he's dumb.
And don't forget pro-life groups. Any organization that could somehow be even remotely linked to the "terrorist bombing" of an abortion clinic will be suspect.
Time to email the GOP to tell them stop the Police State.
I hold W just as responsible, and I voted for him. I still don't regret that vote because Gore would have been worse, but I don't know who I'm backing in 2004 though.
Many F.B.I. officials regard the administration's plan to establish military tribunals as an extreme step that diminishes the F.B.I.'s role because it creates a separate prosecutorial system run by the military.
Now what the heck are the FBI "officials" commenting on the use or non-use of military tribunals? Its not their decision and their input is irrelavent, this is up to the President and the Department of Justice, not the FBI.
Oh great, now the feds are targeting the churches.
What a shame this is being done under a GOP adminstration.
If Reno did , we all would have cried foul.
Time to write to eveyone and tell them to stop taking our rights away......
Ah, excuse me. What do you think Hoover did?
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