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To: hopefulpilgrim
I know that you are aware of all this, Reg. Thank you for going back to look at the article again and for providing the link. God bless. Hopefulpilgrim

You are welcome. I am constantly amazed at the various proofs offered by the apologists. You read the Scriptural references. I read the Scriptural references. Now see the argument for the proofs.

" According to St. Isidore of Seville (Deord. creatur., c. xiv, n. 6) these words prove that in the next life "some sins wil be forgiven and purged away by a certain purifying fire." St. Augustine also argues "that some sinners are not forgiven either in this world or in the next would not be truly said unless there were other [sinners] who, though not forgiven in this world, are forgiven in the world to come" (De Civ. Dei, XXI, xxiv). The same interpretation is given by Gregory the Great (Dial., IV, xxxix); St. Bede (commentary on this text); St. Bernard (Sermo lxvi in Cantic., n. 11) and other eminent theological writers.

Try reading this for meaning or "proof".
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While this passage presents considerable difficulty, it is regarded by many of the Fathers and theologians as evidence for the existence of an intermediate state in which the dross of lighter transgressions will be burnt away, and the soul thus purified will be saved. This, according to Bellarmine (De Purg., I, 5), is the interpretation commonly given by the Fathers and theologians; and he cites to this eftect:

This, according to REGGIE is pure, unadulterated baloney.
3,277 posted on 10/27/2001 1:00:49 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE
I believe there countless millions of Catholics in this world who have no idea who the Lord is. They pray to Mary, they pray to various Saints, they pray to statues, they never pray directly to Jesus.

Oh, I get it now. This is a metaphor, right?

3,279 posted on 10/27/2001 1:08:00 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: OLD REGGIE
...they never pray directly to Jesus.

A question for you. As a Christian, when you pray to God, do you not consider it a prayer to Jesus?

3,284 posted on 10/27/2001 1:33:37 PM PDT by Titanites
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