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To: Havoc
Just pick up the 66 books of the Bible today and put away the old garbage. Learn the Bible, love it, and accept the Lord. He'll get you through without the nonsense and lies. He'll guide your path to someone who can teach you the basics, And God will teach you the rest

If we follow you advice, then why should I have to depend on a mere man to teach me even "the basics"? If they are so basic why shouldn't I just be able to pick up the Bible and learn "the basics" on my own? How will I know that the man sent to me won't teach me new garbage? Jeez, you're not even being consistent with your stated first principle!

What happens when I come across someone else who follows your advice and yet we disagree about what Scripture may mean? Who shall arbitrate between us? The same Scriptures which caused our disagreement? You?

Just another example of the absolute pernicious tradition of men that is the 16th century novelty of Sola Scriptura. Make no mistake about it, the individualism which you recommend is a pure pipedream which has been weighed, it has been measured, and it has been found extremely wanting.

Pray for the Servant of the Servants of God

2,611 posted on 10/24/2001 7:44:29 PM PDT by dignan3
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To: dignan3
Me:
Just pick up the 66 books of the Bible today and put away the old garbage. Learn the Bible, love it, and accept the Lord. He'll get you through without the nonsense and lies. He'll guide your path to someone who can teach you the basics, And God will teach you the rest

Diggy:
If we follow you advice, then why should I have to depend on a mere man to teach me
even "the basics"? If they are so basic why shouldn't I just be able to pick up the Bible and learn "the basics" on my own? How will I know that the man sent to me won't teach me new garbage? Jeez, you're not even being consistent with your stated first principle!

As usual, denying God and His spirit in favor of an opportunity to attack the bogus red herring and deflect attention from the truth. That or you are purposedly misstating the argument in order to argue a red herring rather than truth. Either way, you can't abide the truth and won't deal with it. Jesus is the only way. Proclaim it or deny it.. That means the Spirit of God is to be our guide.

Of course, you don't want to argue that or you wouldn't have completely ignored it in your prior assault. Is your spirit so opposed to truth that you must attack it at any cost. I've no agenda. And I'm telling people to let the Lord lead them.. Wow. Sounds just - just terrible. Wanna crucify me for it? (wink).

2,614 posted on 10/24/2001 7:54:12 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: dignan3
Just another example of the absolute pernicious tradition of men that is the 16th century novelty of Sola Scriptura. Make no mistake about it, the individualism which you recommend is a pure pipedream which has been weighed, it has been measured, and it has been found extremely wanting.

Do you really believe you will gain credibility if you keep repeating this bull?

St. Augustine.

Whatever our Saviour would have us read of his actions and sayings he commanded his apostles and disciples, as his hands, to write. (De Consensu Evang. 1:ult)

or . . .

Augustine ("De bono viduitatis", [The Advantage of Widowhood]2):

"What more shall I teach you than what we read in the apostle? For holy Scripture fixes the rule for our doctrine, lest we dare to be wiser than we ought . . . Therefore, I should not teach you anything else except to expound to you the words of the Teacher."

or . . . Augustine "Contra litteras Petiliana", (Against the Letters of Petiliana) Bk.3, ch.6:

"If anyone preaches either concerning Christ or concerning His church or concerning any other matter which pertains to our faith and life; I will not say, if we, but what Paul adds, if an angel from heaven should preach to you anything besides what you have received in the Scriptures of the Law and the Gospels, let him be anathema."

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"16th century novelty of Sola Scriptura. . ."

No, my friend, the novelty is the pernicious development of tricks to fool the people.

2,616 posted on 10/24/2001 8:10:48 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE
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