Posted on 10/10/2001 11:45:30 PM PDT by Quix
FOLLOWING is the latest update on the progress of a growing NYC WTC related Bible Code. ONE aspect of it already has odds of 1 in 4 million occuring by chance. Some aspects of it are entirely new to the phenomenon. The code's obvious relationship to the surface text (Ezek 7:2-8) is also quite sobering. This code has risen to one of the top 5 of all time in terms of statistical probabilities. This is a worthy site for interested people to signup for. Offered as fair use for educational discussion--Q -----------------
We¡¦d Like Your Opinion on It
A troubling new cluster of codes about the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center is taking shape in the early verses of Ezekiel 7, and we aren¡¦t quite sure what it implies. We¡¦d be very interested in your take on it. (You can e-mail us your [perhaps meant for MEMBERS only?] opinion from the link at the bottom of this page.)
The focal code is an unusually lengthy ELS of 28 letters with a very short skip of 15. [This means the statistical probabilities are VERY high against the likelihood of such occurring by chance.]
It reads, ¡§New York: They Accompany the Unfortunate Who Are Stricken In It. The Worshippers Are Gathering Around God.¡¨ Its length and its brevity of skip makes this one of the top five most significant Bible codes ever discovered.
Crossing or coming near these mysterious messages are many brief ELSs that connect with the events of September 11 and that we are working on possibly extending:
Some of these brief ELSs are:
Repent! God Has Responded to the Evil
An Unheard of Disaster
God Struck Evil
Every Evil
In the Morning
an exact crossing of ¡§September 11¡¨ and ¡§2001¡¨
U.S.
bin Laden
Airliner
Firemen
Afghan
Crying
Saddam
Iraq
Conspiracy
Devastation
Grief
Cruelty
Taliban
Terror
Horrible
Destroy
Death
Destruction
Butchery
[Q: Some of the shorter words above in Hebrew would not, in and of themselves be statistically significant. The whole collection of words fitting the situation AND the surface text is incredibly statistically significant. But common sense will tell you the same thing. CLEARLY SOMETHING IS GOING ON for the list of words above to be collected in a tight, small matrix as they are.]
There are some other extremely unusual features to this cluster. In text centered around the lengthy New York code there are far fewer occurrences of the World Trade Center acronym as a code, as if to represent its horrible absence from the Manhattan skyline. The glaring absence of WTC ELSs is so great that the odds it could happen by chance are less than 1 in 10,000.
In addition, there is an apparent representation of a mass graveyard in the same text. There are 13 visible crosses formed by pairs of appearances of ¡§The End¡¨ ELSs that look like this (the blank squares in the matrix represent other Hebrew letters in the text):
[SORRY, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THE GRAPHIC INSERTED. IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE SITE AND CAN, GREAT.--Q]
The spelling of ¡§The End¡¨ was taken directly from the literal text of Ezekiel 7:5-6: ¡§Disaster! An unheard-of disaster is coming. The end has come! The end has come!¡¨ While 3.5 such crosses would be expected to occur in this text by chance, the actual appearance of 13 such crosses is extremely unusual¡Xwith odds less than 1 in 4 million. The majority of these crosses appear in two stacks whose centers are only 7 letters apart, as if to represent the Twin Towers.
What makes these curiosities particularly disturbing is the message of the surface text above these very significant Bible code occurrences. Ezekiel 7:2-8 reads (in the New International Version):
Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel: The end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land.
The end is now upon you and I will unleash my anger against you. I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.
I will not look on you with pity or spare you; I will surely repay you for your conduct and the detestable practices among you. Then you will know that I am the Lord.
This is what the Sovereign God says: Disaster! An unheard-of disaster is coming.
The end has come! The end has come! It has roused itself against you. It has come!
Doom has come upon you„oyou who dwell in the land. The time has come, the day is near; there is panic, not joy, upon the mountains.
I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you; I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.
This message came through the prophet Ezekiel for the nation of Israel prior to its being conquered by the Babylonian empire in 587 B.C. This was not the first time God allowed ruthless pagans to devastate Israel in times of its spiritual decline. Given that scholars believe there are many double prophecies in the Bible, or instances where a prophecy is fulfilled once and then fulfilled again in a totally different situation many years later, could it be that this prophecy has a modern application, too?
And is it possible to tie these codes and anomalies beneath it to the United States? Could the ¡§detestable practices¡¨ be our commonplace disregard for the Ten Commandments? Might this not include our worship of self, possessions and success rather than God? Our tolerance of violence in media as well as reality? Our ready acceptance of dishonesty [Q: AND INFANTICIDE?] and adultery in our culture?
Or is it simply a coincidence? Or could it be that our ¡§God Bless America¡¨ slogans are self-serving wishes for God to be on our side even though we habitually ignore God and the Ten Commandments in our daily lives?
What do you think? We would value your opinion as we move forward with this research over the next few weeks. Please send us an e-mail with your thoughts. Send to info@biblecodedigest.com.
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Are we to believe that your comments are those of a board-certified, medical doctor, licensed to practice medicine? 33 Posted on 10/11/2001 00:20:14 PDT by onyx
And in my course in statistics, anyone in the class that spoke or wrote the word statistics received an automatic "F". The course was to be known as HOW TO LIE WITH FIGURES AND HOW TO MAKE FIGURES LIE!
The Wonderful Folk at BibleCodeDigest.com often say quite fitting, Biblical, evangelistic etc. things about the surface text. Clearly you have not given them fair consideration at all.
True, it is not their main point of existence--not the purpose of their site to evangelize with the surface text alone. But they certainly discuss it and particularly when the surface text clearly has something to do with the embedded text--a fairly common miraculous event.
Your allegations are unfair and uninformed.
I've been down those roads before and had my faith shaken by various experiences--typically--experiences with so called "Christian Brothers" more than anything else. But eventually, God reaffirmed HIS validity and the validity for HIS LOVE and caring in my life--and the worthiness of my Loving and serving Him.
In exactly the same way that masturbation in fascinating.
Given the stakes, lives at stake, freedoms at stake, I'D THINK THAT ANY REMOTELY REASONABLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION--ESPECIALLY PREDICTIVE IN ANY REMOTE DEGREE--BUT EVEN IF ONLY USEFUL ON REFLECTIONS--ANY DATA WOULD BE WELL AND WISE TO CONSIDER.
Sorry your sensibilities are so easily rattled. You don't seem to have an authoritarian monopoly on the BELIEF'S, WORLD VIEWS, SANCTIONS OF REALITY AND TRUTH on FR. You might be able to be so disruptive, obnoxious, influential or out right mean as to have the thread pulled.
I wouldn't consider such evidence of merit of your view or flattering to your personality.
Also Bob Grant had the author of this junk on several times. Then he had people on who debunked it , and debunked it using newspapers, and other written material.
This isn't any different from people , in the Middle Ages, who bought chicken bones , from traveling peddlers, and believed that they were the bones of various saints. There was also a BIG business, at that time, in vials of Mary's tears, and pieces of the true cross.
http: www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3bc4cfb2742a.htm
I find the book "Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid" by Douglas Hofstadter, curiously related to this topic. He covers, advanced topics in recursion, language theory, methods of mathematical proofs, strengths of proof systems. He through in the analysis of DNA as a side topic as an example of a system of high complexity with meaning on multiple levels.
I have not examined the specific analysis of the Bible code techniques, however, I believe that I do have the expertise and knowledge to pronounce them "plausible". In other words, one would have to examine the data or believe specific studies (if they exist) in order to debunk the phenomenon.
What's REALLY funny, is that a supposedly educated person ( you do think you are educated, don't you ? ) belives such obvious drivel.
Taking the original meanings of the names listed in that boring list--THE LIST OF NAMES--JUST THE LIST OF NAMES and their original meanings results in a rather TIDY, FAIR SUMMARY OF THE GOSPEL STORY.
I Love it when God does things like that. What fun!
Of course, there are those who seem to need as much ExLax as enlightenment.
Otherwise, your argument, post doesn't ring true to my experience AT ALL.
Enough people who've been to multiple therapists have commented exceedingly favorably on my skills and manner I don't have any concerns about that any more. And the concerns I did have were family of origin junk, not training qualification issues.
Hebrew letter have been used on Tarot cards. Did you know that ? Their meanings have been said to be extreemely accurate. Hebrew letters are also used on dradels ( sp ? ), which children play with during Hannuka. When the toplike object stops, the Hebrew letter showing is their " fortune ". Then, there is the Kabbala , in which Hebrew letters are used to work esoteric works. Hebrew letters were also used by alcamists . The " BIBLE CODES " aren't even as accurate as some of these things are , in telling what will ( or in the CODES" case, LOL ) , what HAS already happened.
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