Democracy According to Islam

Democracy According to Islam | 1994 | Niaz Faizi Kabuli

[wai-ming]

I understand that one who leaves the Jewish faith is shunned and considered "dead" by family and friends.

Just curious. What is the penalty for leaving the Christian faith?

Eternal damnation? Sounds like a fate worse than death.

[sadimgnik]

Do you support the death penalty for those who leave the Moslem faith?

Nope. I
(a) oppose the death penalty for all, and
(b) am _not_ a defender of Islam. I merely oppose knee-jerk "nuke all raghead" comments.

Regards

Sadim

[onyx]

ankaboot has had his posting privileges revoked.

[sadimgnik]

ankaboot has had his posting privileges revoked.

If it's not a rude question, may I ask why?

Sadim

[onyx]

Dunno. I received a FReep mail from him informing me of his new status. No reason given.

[Travis McGee]

So you say, but that is mere rhetoric at worst.

Do any Christian sects track down and kill those who renounce the Christian faith?

[Travis McGee]

Thanks you.

To clarify, do you oppose the death penalty for Osama Bin Laden in 2001?

Would you have opposed the death penalty for Hitler in 1944?

[sadimgnik]

To clarify, do you oppose the death penalty for Osama Bin Laden in 2001?

Would you have opposed the death penalty for Hitler in 1944?

Yes. And no. I dunno.

I would support assasination of bin Laden in the current circumstances, and would have supported the killing of Hitler had the famous bomb-in-the-briefcase plot succeeded.

However, if bin Laden is captured and brought to trial, after the undeclared war is over, then I might have to rethink my position.

The difference, of course, revolves aound the rules of war, and the way we conduct ourselves in war and in peace.

Yes, I know the al Qaeda did not behave in a civilised manner .. but that does not mean we should descend into barbarism with them.

Regards

Sadim

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[FreedomPoster]

I think they were delayed because they were washing their hair. Yes, I'm sure that was it.

[JeepInMazar]

I understand that one who leaves the Jewish faith is shunned and considered "dead" by family and friends. Just curious. What is the penalty for leaving the Christian faith? Eternal damnation? Sounds like a fate worse than death.

The Jewish faith, Christianity, and Islam are all religions which teach about eternal damnation. These are theological issues about life here-after. Some Jews, Christians, and Muslims all shun people who turn away from thier faith. Islam, however, teaches that anyone who turns from Islam and denies that Mohammed is a prophet should be killed.

"Moderate" Muslims leaders in America ought to denouce this aspect of their religion because in America people are free to follow any religion they want without living under the threat of death.

[JeepInMazar]

Somehow Turkey, which is 93% Muslim and yet a NATO country with a better standard of living than the Former Soviet Union countries, doesn't run into these problems about what to do with unbelievers.

I guess you have not heard of the Christians who have been arrested in the recent past? I'm refering to both Christian non-Turks in Turkey and Turks from a Muslim background.

[Mark17]

Then why does the INS admit Muslims to this country? For what reason and under whose authority?

Two words: political correctness. Are you on Guadalcanal?

[JeepInMazar]

Muslims in America have the freedom to decide for themselves what they believe. Many are coming to the conclusion that Mohammed is NOT a prophet. They are free to believe that and "moderate" Muslim leaders in America should state that clearly because Islam demands that these people should be killed for there "apostacy" (the Arabic word for this kind of apostacy is "murtad", not "kafir").

[Mark17]

Hey Paul, I guess a lot of things started in Babylon huh? After reading the Book of Revalation, I think some things are going to end with it too.

[ppaul]

Q: Then why does the INS admit Muslims to this country? For what reason and under whose authority?
A: Two words: political correctness.

Two more words: diversity and racial profiling

The Clinton era INS was charged with creating a society celebrating diversity - American needs to look like the world. It takes a village, you know.
Racial profiling screened out the white, European male - rubber-stamped as persona non grata.

[AGAviator]

I guess you have not heard of the Christians who have been arrested in the recent past?

They haven't been killed, have they?

Proselytizing is not illegal but is viewed with suspicion, especially when political overtones are suspected. Police often arrest individuals who are proselytizing for disturbing the peace or other charges both civil and political. The courts almost always drop these charges. Foreigners are often deported but are sometimes allowed to reenter the country.

Turkey has been a popular vacation spot for Germans, who are predominantly Christian.

[JeepInMazar]

I agree with what you have written. Turkey is not a Muslim country, however. It is a secular government who's citizens are mostly Muslim. If Turkey had an Islamic governement, things would be much different.

[AGAviator]

We need secular governments, they work for us. "Separation of church and state," it's called.

There's plenty of blood-curdling passages in the OT, and even some in the New that have been (mis)used for thousands of years.