Posted on 10/16/2006 11:24:52 AM PDT by yankeedame
Western Civilization took a heavy blow when the French monarchy was destroyed by anti-clerical socialists. So much of European history for the past 200 years is merely the reverberation of the explosion.
Kirstin Dunst looks nothing like the woman in the sketches. Dunst will play Marie A in the forthcoming film.
Constrast and compare the American War for Independence with the French Revolution, not even twenty years apart.
In the former, the rebelling colonials relied upon God, and invoked the name of Jesus.
In the latter, the rebelling French mocked the Christian faith and openly murdered nuns and priests and destroyed churches.
At one point, the French revolutionaries took a common whore, placed upon her naked frame a sash proclaiming her to be "La Deite de Raison" and set her up on the altar of a Catholic church, bowing to her in mock worship.
The French Revolution was the first Communist Revolution.
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Much better.
I thought Marie Antonette was a movie actress from the 40's didn't know she was a Queen who was beheaded.
So was she guilty of incest or did her enemies set her up to execute her?
Amen, brother. That's the first time -- outside a Birch meeting years ago -- that I've heard anyone correctly describe the French Revolution. And it's been downhill for the frogs ever since.
Thanks for getting it right.
OMG!
Where in the world do they sell these?
Talk about tasteless.
Do you have proof that the French revolutionaries mocked all christians or that they were communist (marxist, leninist, maoist, fascist) in nature?
My history books tell me that the French Revolution legalized (yes, legalized for the first time in 1,400 years) the open worship of protestantism, sabbatarianism, Judaism, mohammedism, paganism, agnosticism, and even atheism if you so chose in your own free will. They also eliminated the state mandated coersion that the Catholic Church control a tithe (1/10) of all civil taxation. The Revolution also dismantled the Catholic hegemony in land distribution--church lands that could not be circulated into a free market economy. It also eliminated the Catholic Church intimately involved in secular politics of the sovereign nation on behalf of the interests of a foreign city-state theocracy. History tells us that the Catholic church co-ruled France in a pseudo-theocracy making all other religions and sects illegal, punishable by death if need be, and subject to all efforts of the Office of Inquizition--which meant all lands, titles, and wealth of non-conformists could be seized as church property on behalf of the Holy See. And the co-rule also made France's destiny guided by the ambitions of Roman popes that sometimes had horrible results for the French armies and navies.
BTW, you will notice that the US Constitution does not allow a state religion, nor a coersive tithe system to a state-mandated religion, nor an allowance for ecclesiatic positions in sectarian matters. The USA was not nor will not ever be a theocracy as long as the Constitution reigns supreme as law of the land. You have inalienable rights to free will choices. It was also a vision the French Revolutionists were initially trying to bring to the Republic.
So, in truth, the French Revolution was neither communist nor anti-religion. However, it did rid the country of its puppet strings under the sway of Pontiff et al.
That's what my history books tell me. Regarding communism, I think the second French Revolution of the 1840's was more likely a source influencing or influenced by Marx. It did not succeed.
All revolutions seem to start off moderate. Later they are hijacked by radical extremists--the American Revolution being the exception. And it's highly possible that it would have taken that course were it not for the measured and temperate leadership of Washington.
A preview for the movie came on tv while I was reading this.....weird.
It sounds like a pretty good film, from the review I read in the NYTimes.
Hollywood does an extremely poor, poor, poor job of getting historical figures (female) right.
The worst was 'The Necklace' where every female lead was under 25 and a skeleton. When they all should have been older and heavier.
Looked like a "Teen History" movie.
It isn't like they have a lot of options for heavier actresses.
True,
but the fashions of the era look very weird on boney frames. The corsets were made for plumper, more buxom women. On very thin females, they looked very odd. Like no matter how tight they tied them, they never hit skin.
Thanks for this post - reading a book on "The Terror" now - unfortunately it takes a very pro-revolutionary bias - as if all those folks deserved to have their heads chopped off. I actually trace all the madness back to the "enlightenment" - that was the equivalent of Eve biting into the apple - once man is deemed as being either perfect or perfectable - watch out! Of course the islamofascists' solution of theocracy is no good either. The Pope nailed it when he said the greatest good is served when faith is combined with logos - a balance is truly needed.
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