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Cardinal Husar denounces Uniatism - urges establishment of one Orthodox-Catholic Church in Ukraine
Interfax ^ | September 24, 2005

Posted on 09/27/2005 10:05:14 AM PDT by NYer

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To: annalex; Kolokotronis

"Your Greek, by the way, has become awful... It is filled with Americanisms."

Your command of Greeklish is truly astounding, annalex, to be able to pick up on those subtle Americanisms. You were probably trained in the Greek language at the Vatican to infiltrate Greek society and turn them all into Uniates, weren't you? :-)

Watch out, K!


81 posted on 09/29/2005 5:48:24 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: TexConfederate1861

I had the misfortune of hearing some of the EO leaders speak (Gilquist and Braun, on separate occasions) fairly early after their conversion. Their hearts are indeed in the right place, but their minds are muddled (is that the California bit?), and they were rank neophytes going around lecturing on something they hadn't yet learned to live.

Listening to Braun speak set back my journey to Orthodoxy by two years. I left the talk knowing that I would never become Orthodox after hearing such brilliant feats of logic as this: "We looked into the Roman Cathlic church, but we couldn't be priests because we were married, and we knew God had called us to be ministers -- therefore we knew the Catholic church couldn't be the true Church." (!)


82 posted on 09/29/2005 5:58:25 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: annalex; kosta50
"It is "Ochi vre pedaki mou, ooochiii". "

LOL!!! Ochi???? Interesting. That's the way we pronounce it in my village and a relatively small area around it. You sure you're Russian?!

By the way, "pedaki mou", pronounced "pethaki moo" is soooo not now...and, well, common; but perhaps a very old fisherman would say it that way. :)

"Why don't you just use Latin. (Alphabet, I mean)"

Because Kosta taught me how to post in Greek and I'm having fun with it! Entxaei;

83 posted on 09/29/2005 6:02:35 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Agrarian; annalex

"Your command of Greeklish is truly astounding, annalex, to be able to pick up on those subtle Americanisms."

Actually, Agrarianian, there were no Americanisms in what I wrote...pure Peloponnesian modern Greek. But to give our fifth columnist his due, his recitation of what a very old Greek fisherman might say is really good and his picking the very way I might say OXI is a little scary! :) I think we need to watch him. He may not even be Russian.


84 posted on 09/29/2005 6:06:49 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Agrarian

""We looked into the Roman Cathlic church, but we couldn't be priests because we were married, and we knew God had called us to be ministers -- therefore we knew the Catholic church couldn't be the true Church." (!)"

Speaks volumes, doesn't it! I am so glad +Iakovos showed them the door when they came calling with their "conditions".


85 posted on 09/29/2005 6:10:15 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: MarMema

Great Lent was one of his better books, I'll admit.

I think that the problem at core with Schmemman was that he was more concerned with the academic reputation of St. Vlads amongst Episcopalian professors and WCC functionaries than with how his speculations affected day to day life in the Church. Never mind the fact that a good Orthodox seminary shouldn't try to ape the ivory towers...

I'd rather not go on a roll about the man. He is dead and gone, and his influence is waning. He had good points, and must have been a personally charismatic figure, given the way so many of his students worship him (the others revile him -- few had a balanced response to him -- which says a lot to me.)


86 posted on 09/29/2005 6:11:35 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: Kolokotronis

"...there were no Americanisms in what I wrote...pure Peloponnesian modern Greek."

Hot dang! My modern Greek is even better than I thought! I need to cruise the Aegean next summer and try it out...


87 posted on 09/29/2005 6:15:34 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: Agrarian

Well, I should hope so, given the company you keep! So I can count on no excuses after Pascha this year?


88 posted on 09/29/2005 6:17:06 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

LOL! As you well know (and as my better half has known for many years), "excuses" is my middle name...whether before or after Pascha.


89 posted on 09/29/2005 6:21:54 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: Kolokotronis; annalex

"and his picking the very way I might say OXI is a little scary!"

It's that blasted Jesuit sword in action. Just when you think you've anticipated their every move...


90 posted on 09/29/2005 6:25:06 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: Kolokotronis; Agrarian; kosta50
there were no Americanisms in what I wrote

You realize, do you not, that post 77, following the quote that ended the first paragraph, came out all in Greek letters due to some unterminated tag? Hence the "Americanisms". For example, "truth" came out Tau Roh Ypsilon Tau Eta, "tryte". Differently configured browsers would show it differenlty, I guess.

I wouldn't know how to duplicate it. I'd let Kosta teach me, but I am afraid he'll put that Serbian chip in my head and I'll crave rakia with pickle even more. This is why I always post Greek in transliteration.

91 posted on 09/29/2005 7:12:36 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex; Kolokotronis

Good Lord. I assumed K. had done that on purpose, with tongue firmly planted in cheek! I responded with equal tongue in cheek with regard to my fluency in modern Greek.

K., say it isn't so! Tell us that you *didn't* just accidentally forget to close a tag in # 77!


92 posted on 09/29/2005 7:19:22 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: annalex
"You realize, do you not, that post 77, following the quote that ended the first paragraph, came out all in Greek letters due to some unterminated tag? Hence the "Americanisms". For example, "truth" came out Tau Roh Ypsilon Tau Eta, "tryte". Differently configured browsers would show it differenlty, I guess."

Now I understand what you were saying. I wondered what you were talking about On my browser (Firefox) it comes out fine, in other words, Greek where it should be Greek and English where it should be English.
93 posted on 09/29/2005 7:21:00 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Agrarian; annalex; kosta50

This is funny. I just checked the post on my IE browser and it came out just as you said, annalex; but on Firefox, which is what I usually use, it came out fine! Anyone know why?


94 posted on 09/29/2005 7:24:46 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Greek where it should be Greek and English where it should be English.

That's what I would call a Uniate browser.

95 posted on 09/29/2005 7:26:19 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Kolokotronis
know why?

There is a Russian saying that all such problems come from insufficient drinking.

96 posted on 09/29/2005 7:28:08 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
" That's what I would call a Uniate browser" I thought there was something just a bit off with Firefox. :) How's this: Ecw dikio ; Still Greeklish now on IE?
97 posted on 09/29/2005 7:32:42 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: annalex

" There is a Russian saying that all such problems come from insufficient drinking"

You sure you're not from a small Greek village in the southern mountains?


98 posted on 09/29/2005 7:35:08 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: annalex; Kolokotronis

"There is a Russian saying that all such problems come from insufficient drinking."

Ha! That reminds me of when I was studying in Europe. I got engaged to my lovely wife (now of 20 years) while we were there studying at different universities. My Scottish roomate, when I told him the news, looked at me a little funny and said: "At your young age? Well, all I can say is that you've got a LOT of drinking to do between now and then... It's much easier, though, when you have a few more years to get it done."

He, of course, offered his assistance...


99 posted on 09/29/2005 7:40:12 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: Kolokotronis; Agrarian; annalex; kosta50

Now I have alphabet envy. I am working with a Mac and tried this page on Safari, Firefox, Netscape and Internet Explorer. On all four all I get are Latin letters. Any suggestions?


100 posted on 09/29/2005 7:41:17 PM PDT by Petrosius
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