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Cardinal Husar denounces Uniatism - urges establishment of one Orthodox-Catholic Church in Ukraine
Interfax ^ | September 24, 2005

Posted on 09/27/2005 10:05:14 AM PDT by NYer

Moscow, September 24, Interfax - Cardinal Lubomyr Husar, head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholics, following President Viktor Yuschenko, has spoken in favour of establishing a one Church in Ukraine.

According to the cardinal, all the church problems would be solved, ‘if Ukraine had one patriarch for all’. This is the basis on which both the Orthodox and Catholics could ‘return to the primary unity’, he believes as cited by the Religious Information Service in Ukraine this week.

At the same time, he adds, ‘there are no claims that a Greek Catholic should be the patriarch’; what is only important is that ‘this patriarch should be a person capable of uniting all’.

However, Husar lays down the condition ‘that this Church and this patriarch should be united with Rome’. It seems to mean that if the patriarch is not initially Uniate, he will have to join the Unia afterwards.

The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, its leader affirms, ‘continues the historical policy of the Kiev Metropolia’, but as the cardinal’s present designation of ‘supreme archbishop’ is little known in ‘the tradition of Eastern Churches’, ‘an ordinary Christian does not know what to do with it’. In Husar’s view, the UGCC ‘has long grown up to act as patriarchate, for it is a natural development for a Local Church in the Eastern tradition’.

At the same time the cardinal is concerned about ‘the failure of the Latin theology to appreciate any sharing between Local Churches and Rome’. The Vatican, he believes, understood unity ‘as subjection’ and this process was called ‘Uniatism’.

‘Denouncing Uniatism today’, Husar points out, he seeks ‘a vision of unity which should be built not on uniformity, but on the preservation of everyone’s own tradition in the form of sharing’. This is ‘a rather complicated’ problem and, to the cardinal’s regret, ‘not quite adequately solved’. The Ukrainian Greek Catholics, however, intend ‘to move towards its solution and to be in the vanguard’, though ‘not everyone in Rome has been made to change his mind’.

The Supreme Archbishop underscores that in the matter of one Church ‘much hangs on relations with the Orthodox’, referring to both the Ukrainian Orthodox Church linked with the Moscow Patriarchate and the unrecognized Ukrainian Autocephalous Church.

He believes however that among the Orthodox ‘the spiritual processes develop in a very much disordered way’ - a reason for which ‘we all are in a rather chaotic state, from which we should come out step by step’.

Husar says he would welcome the emergence of three patriarchs in Kiev at once, ‘Russian Orthodox, Greek Catholic and Autocephalous’, because they would make ‘three partners in negotiations’, and this would make ‘a concrete talk much easier’ and help to come ‘to the idea of one patriarch and one patriarchate’ much sooner.

According to the cardinal, ‘neither Moscow nor Rome will give us our unity’. It has to be developed independently. And then ‘Rome, Constantinople or Moscow, which is much younger compared to them, will just accept this fact’. He sees it more desirable to consider this issue ‘in a discussion in which various confessions and the government could participate’, since ‘the Ukrainian president has stated on many occasions that the government would like to see a one Local Church’.

In order to influence those Ukrainians who ‘are not disposed’ to such a dialogue today, the cardinal proposes to use the existing ‘examples of certain decisions’. He cites Northern Ireland, where ‘people are struggling for a life in harmony’. His also cited relations between the Palestinian and the Israeli as a similar example.

In Husar’s opinion, the negotiations on unification should be started by ‘people with higher education and solid religious training’. In doing so, they should understand that the aim of the negotiations is already clear: ‘the Church should be one, and we all recognize it’, so the unification ‘is not a matter of our good will. It is the commandment that is in point’.


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Lubomyr Cardinal Husar
Major Archbishop of Kiev and Halych of the Ukrainians

1 posted on 09/27/2005 10:05:18 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

Cardinal Lubomyr Husar incenses the coffin during the funeral of Pope John Paul II in the center of St. Peter's Square at the Vatican, Friday.
2 posted on 09/27/2005 10:07:01 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Kolokotronis

Orthodox ping!


3 posted on 09/27/2005 10:07:51 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer
The Supreme Archbishop underscores that in the matter of one Church ‘much hangs on relations with the Orthodox’, referring to both the Ukrainian Orthodox Church linked with the Moscow Patriarchate and the unrecognized Ukrainian Autocephalous Church.

Kinda goes without saying.

A prayer "that they may all be one..."

4 posted on 09/27/2005 10:16:28 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: NYer

thanks for posting....this would truly be monumental!


5 posted on 09/27/2005 10:20:02 AM PDT by KOZ.
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To: NYer; jo kus; kosta50; MarMema

I wondered when this fellow would get around to something like this. My prediction is that both Rome and Orthodoxy in general will write him off as a loose, and dangerous, cannon.

One point, though. It seems to me that the article itself is confusing in that it says that the ultimate "Patriarch" in this scheme will have to be in communion with Rome and thus a Uniate. From what is quoted, it looks like a Uniate is exactly what this man is saying the "Patriarch" will not be.


6 posted on 09/27/2005 10:23:43 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

Extremely confusing. When someone demystifies it, please send me a ping.


7 posted on 09/27/2005 10:38:05 AM PDT by annalex
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To: Kolokotronis

As I read it, he says this union must be developed independently. IOW, once agreement is reached, it would be generally accepted. Who better to understand such a working model than those who live it, right? (or am I misunderstanding something else here)


8 posted on 09/27/2005 10:41:46 AM PDT by NYer
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To: jb6

ping


9 posted on 09/27/2005 11:30:28 AM PDT by MarMema
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ping


10 posted on 09/27/2005 11:36:26 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: MarMema

More Garbage attempts to unite with Rome and water down Orthodoxy. UNACCEPTABLE.


12 posted on 09/27/2005 12:24:11 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: NYer

Sorry, I don't follow. This Cardinal is head of a Uniate church in communion with the Successor of Peter. Why is he condemning his own church?


13 posted on 09/27/2005 1:02:01 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: NYer
‘Denouncing Uniatism today’, Husar points out, he seeks ‘a vision of unity which should be built not on uniformity, but on the preservation of everyone’s own tradition in the form of sharing’. This is ‘a rather complicated’ problem and, to the cardinal’s regret, ‘not quite adequately solved’.

Lol .... classic

14 posted on 09/27/2005 1:14:56 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Kolokotronis
From what is quoted, it looks like a Uniate is exactly what this man is saying the "Patriarch" will not be.

Husar wants his Uniatism without subjection. Uniate in a new way, shall we say.

That's the same (or similar) drift I've gotten from other reading on potential Catholic-Orthodox reunion.

15 posted on 09/27/2005 1:19:26 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: TexConfederate1861

"More Garbage attempts to unite with Rome and water down Orthodoxy. UNACCEPTABLE"

That's exactly what it is, Tex!


16 posted on 09/27/2005 2:38:31 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

"Why is he condemning his own church?"

A) Rome has thusfar refused to designate him a "Patriarch".

B) Uniatism is falling apart in the land of its birth.

C) Both of the above

You pick!


17 posted on 09/27/2005 2:40:11 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

Wow....we do agree on some things I suppose...:)


18 posted on 09/27/2005 3:17:29 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: Unam Sanctam

Maybe he has found a BETTER one.....

The One, Holy and ORIGINAL Orthodox Church!


Accept NO substitutes.


19 posted on 09/27/2005 3:21:04 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861

Yeah, I was kind of surprised myself! :)


20 posted on 09/27/2005 3:38:24 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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