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To: Luke21

This is what I don’t get coming from some conservatives. Southerners were fighting against everything today’s conservatives hate: centralized power, the Washington swamp and all of its sickening corruption, exploitation by the politically well connected corporate fat cats. They were for the things conservatives support - decentralized power, decisions to be made at a local level whenever possible, keeping the government out of business and keeping subsidies to a minimum, fiscal responsibility, a balanced budget, a non interventionist foreign policy, etc.

The South overwhelmingly still believes in those things and is the backbone of the conservative movement. Without the South and their considerable political clout, the gun grabbing, Gaia worshiping, corrupt global socialists would have long since taken over America. All conservatives in America would be living with their boot on your necks.

Yet, despite all of that, they just cannot help themselves whenever they see an opportunity to hurl insults at Southerners.....to call them traitors, to make the ridiculous claim that they were fighting for slavery when less than 6% of Southerners actually owned slaves, and to cast their lot with the exact same Leftists they otherwise despise in attacking the South’s history, culture and people. Its truly amazing. You see it even here all the time.


19 posted on 10/16/2020 2:59:28 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

“Southerners were fighting against everything today’s conservatives hate: centralized power”

No they weren’t. They were exactly like today’s Democrats using the courts to force their will on other states, Dred Scott for example.

More broadly there is no greater centralized power than keeping others in bondage under the aegis of government force, which is what they were doing.


25 posted on 10/16/2020 3:16:27 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: FLT-bird
I am a southern supporter. But your arguement about fighting for slavery is empty. The south carolina declaration of indepence specifically cites the support of slavery as its main reason to succeed from the union. And lincoln was a Tyrant. John wilkes booth was 4 years too late to stop the killing of over 200,000 americans and confederats.

the most curious question I'm dying to have answered is, why did Lincoln want South Carolina back soo badly?

I think he was an egotistical maniac who was put in his place when the south left, and afraid the south would attack to take Maryland back, because Maryland at the time was pro confederate. He arrested the Maryland house of reps before they could vote on joining the confederate states of America. jailed and held all without charges or access to any legal counsel!. . Ol honest abe trampled on the constitution horribly and was one of the worst presidents we have ever had in that regard.

30 posted on 10/16/2020 3:44:15 AM PDT by Ikeon (Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's.)
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To: FLT-bird

Democrats in the South were thugs...they talked the same way about blacks then that today’s democrats talk about us.

They discouraged any speech they disagreed with... and they rigged the vote by denying the vote to millions of black citizens.

Democrats in the Jim Crow South were the same as democrats today...thugs.


32 posted on 10/16/2020 3:51:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's base: Why doesn't Biden's Tour have rallies in black communities?)
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To: FLT-bird
Interestingly, nobody ever seems to call George Washington et alia a traitor. (He did, after all, turn on the King of England.)

It's kind of like "war crimes", I guess; the winning side gets to call these things.

33 posted on 10/16/2020 3:58:34 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("The side that has truth gets humor as a bonus.")
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