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Statement on the Attack Against the U.S.S. Stark
May 18, 1987




I have an announcement here that I would like to make that is aimed directly at you of the press. I know and I share the sense of concern and anger that Americans feel over the yesterday's tragedy in the Persian Gulf. We have protested this attack in the strongest terms and are investigating the circumstances of the incident. When our investigation of the facts is completed, I will report to the American people about this matter and any further steps that are warranted. For that reason I have convened a meeting of the National Security Planning Group to review the entire situation in the Persian Gulf.

In the meanwhile, I want to express my deepest sympathies to the families of the brave men killed and injured yesterday aboard the U.S.S. Stark. Their loss and suffering will not be in vain. The mission of the men of the U.S.S. Stark, safeguarding the interests of the United States and the free world in the Gulf, remains crucial to our national security and to the security of our friends throughout the world. The hazards to our men and women in uniform in the defense of freedom can never be understated. The officers and crew of the U.S.S. Stark deserve our highest admiration and appreciation. And I would also like to express my sincere gratitude to Saudi Arabia and Bahrain for their prompt assistance in responding to the stricken U.S.S. Stark.



This tragic incident underscores the need to bring the Iran-Iraq war to the promptest possible end. We and the rest of the international community must redouble our diplomatic efforts to hasten the settlement that will preserve the sovereignty and territorial integrity of both Iran and Iraq. At the same time, we remain deeply committed to supporting the self-defense of our friends in the gulf and to ensuring the free flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz.

Note: The President spoke to reporters at 11:38 a.m. in the Rose Garden at the White House. The ship was mistakenly attacked by an Iraqi Air Force plane. Thirty-seven U.S. sailors were killed.




Remarks at a Memorial Service for Crewmembers of the U.S.S. Stark in Jacksonville, Florida
May 22, 1987


Our task today is simple and sad: to remember, to pay tribute to those we loved. For some of us here today, our love is the unquenchable, unforgetting love of a wife or child for a fallen father, of a mother or father for a fallen son. For others of us, this love, while more distant, is still anguished and grieving; ours is a love for a fallen countryman who died so that we, a free people, might live and this great nation endure.



Even as we hear these words, we understand again their inadequacy. We appreciate anew Lincoln's humble wisdom at Gettysburg. When brave men die, it is their deeds, not our words, that are remembered. It is their sacrifice, not our brief recollection, that offers everlasting testimony to their love for others, and their love for us. But we're human, and today we know such great heartache. So, we come to this place to seek the simple assurance of each other and the hope of finding a higher meaning, a greater purpose. And so we ask: Why did this happen? Why to them? Could anything be worth such a sacrifice? And these fallen, whom we knew and loved but rarely thought of as great men or legends, can we now truly say they are heroes? And even if we can, would we not rather have them back, ordinary men again perhaps, but still ours, ours to hold and to keep?

The answers are hard. Hard because memory forces some of us to remember other faraway places which Americans had never heard of until their sons and brothers and fathers and friends fell there. Each Memorial Day, and especially with the news of the past week, my own mind has turned many times to the great war of 46 years ago. Few of us who lived through it can ever forget those opening months of conflict, when our nation and our fighting men were so sorely tested.



In later years, in the South Pacific campaign, American sailors would speak often of the bravery of the marines they put on the beaches to fight and die; but one night, especially, off a place called Guadalcanal, as the shellfire lit the darkness in one of the most violent surface actions ever seen, it was the marines who stood in awe and in silent tribute to the men of the United States Navy. Hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned, a small group of U.S. ships had taken on a powerful enemy fleet. And though five Medals of Honor were won and the enemy was turned back and Guadalcanal was saved, the price was so high and the burden so heavy -- nine ships and hundreds of young lives. And none of us who were alive then can forget the special burden of grief borne by Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Sullivan of Waterloo, Iowa. They would remember forever the autumn afternoon they learned that their sons -- George, Francis, Joseph, Madison, and Albert -- the Five Sullivans as we knew them then, would not be coming home.

But while our sorrow was great in those days, I cannot help but tell you this morning that in some ways it was easier to bear then, because it was easier to understand why we were there and why we were fighting. The burden of our own time is so different. And when young Americans like those of the U.S.S. Stark die in far-off seas, we learn again how right President Kennedy was when he spoke of the sacrifices asked by a ``hard and bitter peace'' and our own ``long twilight struggle.'' Even at moments like these, then, we must address directly the reason the U.S.S. Stark and her men were there in the Persian Gulf. You're entitled to know the importance of the role that their valor played in keeping our world safe for peace and freedom.



There's a reason why, since 1949, American ships have patrolled the Gulf. Every American President since World War II has understood the strategic importance of this region: It is a region that is a crossroads for three continents and the starting place for the oil that is the lifeblood of much of the world economy, especially those of our allies in Europe. Even more important, this is a region critical to avoiding larger conflict in the tinderbox that is the Middle East, and our role there is essential to building the conditions for peace in that troubled, dangerous part of the world. And it is this objective that has guided us as we've sought to end the brutal war between Iran and Iraq, a war that has gone on for over 6\1/2\ terrible years and taken such an awful toll on human life.

Peace is at stake here, and so too is our own nation's security and our freedom. Were a hostile power ever to dominate this strategic region and its resources, it would become a chokepoint for freedom -- that of our allies and our own. And that's why we maintain a naval presence there. Our aim is to prevent, not to provoke, wider conflict, to save the many lives that further conflict would cost us.


A close-up damage to the USS Stark after it was struck by Iraqi-launched Exocet missile


The fallen sailors of the U.S.S. Stark understood their obligations; they knew the importance of their job. So, too, I believe that most Americans today know the price of freedom in this uneasy world. They know that to retreat or withdraw would only repeat the improvident mistakes of the past and hand final victory to those who seek war, who make war, who know it would only invite further aggression and tragedy. So, it's a simple truth we reaffirm here today: Young Americans of the U.S.S. Stark gave up their lives so that the terrible moments of the past would not be repeated, so that wider war and greater conflict could be avoided, so that thousands, and perhaps millions, of others might be spared the final sacrifice these men so willingly made.

So, we ask again: Were they heroes? ``Heroes are not supermen,'' Herman Wouk once reminded us, ``they're good men, and embodied by the cast of destiny, the virtue of a whole people in a great hour.'' And writing of the thousands of such heroes in our nation, men and women who wear our country's uniform in this troubled peace of ours, he asked us to never forget ``to reassure them that their hard, long training is needed, that love of country is noble, that self-sacrifice is rewarding, that to be ready to fight for freedom fills a man with a sense of worth like nothing else.'' And he said, ``If America is still the great beacon in dense gloom, the promise to hundreds of millions of the oppressed that liberty exists, that it is the shining future, that they can throw off their tyrants, and learn freedom and cease learning war, then we still'' need heroes ``to stand guard in the night.''


Damage to the USS Stark.


The men of the U.S.S. Stark stood guard in the night. One of our Ambassadors paid them this tribute: ``They were tough, they were brave, they were great.'' Well, they were great, and those that died did embody the best of us. Yes, they were ordinary men who did extraordinary things. Yes, they were heroes. And because they were heroes, let us not forget this: that for all the lovely spring and summer days we will never share with them again, for every Thanksgiving and Christmas that will seem empty without them, there will be other moments, too, moments when we see the light of discovery in young eyes, eyes that see for the first time the world around them and know the sweep of history and wonder, ``Why is there such a place as America, and how is it that such a precious gift is mine?'' And we can answer them. We can answer them by telling of this day and those that we come to honor here. And it's then we'll see understanding in those young eyes; it is then they will know the same gratitude and pride that we share today, the gratitude and pride Americans feel always for those who suffer and die so that the precious gift of America might always be ours.

The men of the U.S.S. Stark have protected us; they have done their duty. Now let us do ours. Senior Chief Gary Clinefelter showed us how yesterday. He had volunteered to work at the coordinating center here for the families when he received word that his own son, Seaman Brian Clinefelter, previously listed as missing in action, was among the confirmed dead. ``I need to keep working,'' he said. He stayed at his post; he carried on. Well, so, too, we must carry on. We must stay at our post. We must keep faith with their sacrifice. In our great hour, we must answer, as did they, the call of history. It's a summons that, as a nation or a people, we did not seek, but it is a call we cannot shirk or refuse -- a call to wage war against war, to stand for freedom until freedom can stand alone, to live for liberty until liberty is the blessing and birthright of every man, woman, and child on this Earth.


Interesting picture of the Stark while rebuiding her after the incident.


And let us remember a final duty: to understand that these men made themselves immortal by dying for something immortal, that theirs is the best to be asked of any life -- a sharing of the human heart, a sharing in the infinite. In giving themselves for others, they made themselves special, not just to us but to their God. ``Greater love than this has no man than to lay down his life for his friends.'' And because God is love, we know He was there with them when they died and that He is with them still. We know they live again, not just in our hearts but in His arms. And we know they've gone before to prepare a way for us. So, today we remember them in sorrow and in love. We say goodbye. And as we submit to the will of Him who made us, we pray together the words of scripture: ``Lord, now let thy servants go in peace, Thy word has been fulfilled.''

May I point out again, so many of you have known long months of separation from your loved ones, from those young men. You were separated by distance, by miles of land and ocean. Now you are separated again, not just by territorial limits but because they have stepped through that door that God has promised all of us. They do live now in a world where there is no sorrow, no pain. And they await us, and we shall all be together again.

God bless you.

Note: The President spoke at 11:57 a.m. at the Mayport Naval Station. Following the memorial service, he met with the families of the crewmembers who lost their lives in the missile attack. The President then traveled to Camp David, MD.

1 posted on 11/23/2004 10:29:19 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: snippy_about_it; PhilDragoo; Johnny Gage; Victoria Delsoul; The Mayor; Darksheare; Valin; ...
USS STARK (FFG-31) was launched on May 30, 1982 and commissioned October 23, 1982 in Seattle, Washington. STARK was the twenty-fifth of fifty-five Oliver Hazard Perry class Guided Missile Frigates. STARK was named for the former Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Harold R. Stark.


Ship's Crest


Major Deployments of USS STARK (FFG-31):


The older Oliver Hazard Perry class of Guided Missile Frigates have been slowly replaced by the newer, more modern Arleigh Burke class Destroyers and Ticonderoga class Guided Cruisers. The USS STARK (FFG-31) was decommisioned in May 1999 and is currently at Inactive Ships Maintenance Office in Philadelphia, PA. While numerous Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates were decommissioned in 1999 or 2000, some Guided Missile Frigates still serve in the U.S. Navy.

STARK was struck by two missiles fired by Iraqi aircraft. A memorial engraving mounted in the midships passageway lists the name of the 37 shipmates who gave their lives.

Additional Sources:

www.reagan.utexas.edu
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guerredugolfe.free.fr
www.navsource.org
www.tpub.com
www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk
navysite.de
datamanos2.com
www.aviation-art.net

2 posted on 11/23/2004 10:30:18 PM PST by SAMWolf (INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY.)
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To: SAMWolf

Teaser
1947 Un-American Activities Committee finds "Hollywood 10" in contempt because of their refusal to reveal whether they were communists
/teaser

Past my bedtime
I blame society for it.


5 posted on 11/23/2004 10:34:49 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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6 posted on 11/23/2004 10:34:59 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf

On This Day In history


Birthdates which occurred on November 24:
1632 Benedict de "Baruch" Spinoza Amsterdam, rationalist philosopher
1713 Father Junipero Serra had a mission in California
1784 Zachary Taylor (Whig) 12th President (Mar 5,1849-July 9,1850)
1826 Collodi [Carlo Lorenzini], Italian author (Pinocchio)
1829 William Passmore Carlin Bvt Major General (Union Army), died in 1903
1847 Bram Stoker Irish theater manager/author (Dracula)
1849 Frances Hodgson Burnett author of children's book (My Secret Garden)
1864 Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec France, painter (At the Moulin Rouge)
1868 Scott Joplin US, entertainer/composer (The Entertainer)
1876 Walter Griffin US architect, city planner; designed Canberra, Austria
1877 Alben W Barkley Graves County KY, (35th Vice President-D-1949-53)
1888 Dale Carnegie author (How to Win Friends & Influence People)
1889 Albert J Sylvester England, ballroom dancer (Alex Moor Award-1977)
1911 Kirby Grant Butte MT, actor (Sky King)
1912 Garson Kanin American playwright/producer (Double Life)
1912 Geraldine Fitzgerald Dublin Ire, actress (Pawnbroker, Easy Money)
1917 Howard Duff Bremerton Wash, actor (Flamingo Road, Knots Landing)
1918 Tom "Stubby" Fouts Carroll County IN, actor (Polka-go-round)
1921 John V Lindsay (Mayor-R/D-NY, 1965-73)
1925 William F Buckley Jr Writer, Publisher/Editor (National Review) (Firing Line)
1932 Katalin Juhasz-Nagy Hungary, foils (Olympic-gold-1964)
1934 Martin Charnin Broadway lyricist (Annie, West Side Story)
1935 Ron (Red) Dellums Oakland CA, (Rep-D-CA)
1939 Yoshinobu Miyake Japan, featherweight (Olympic-gold-1964, 68)
1941 Donald "Duck" Dunn TN, bassist (Booker T-Mar-Keys, Walkin' the Dog)
1942 Marlin Fitzwater press secretary (George Bush)
1946 Ted Bundy Burlington VT, serial murderer
1947 Dwight Schultz Baltimore MD, actor (A-Team)
1948 Steve Yeager catcher (Los Angeles Dodger)
1950 Damon Evans Baltimore MD, actor (Lionel-The Jeffersons)
1956 Doug Davidson actor (Young & Restless)
1957 Denise Crosby Hollywood CA, actress (Tasha-Star Trek: Next Gen)
1958 Carmel (McCourt) England, rocker (Storm, More More More)
1963 Lisa Howard actress (Days of Our Life, Rolling Vengeance)



Deaths which occurred on November 24:
1572 John Knox Scottish preacher, dies
1674 Franciscus van Enden Flemish jesuit/free thinker, executed at 72
1863 Claudius Charles Wilson Confederate brig-gen, dies in battle at 32
1929 Georges Clemenceau, PM of France (1906-09, 17-20), dies at 88
1962 James J Kilroy tank inspector (Kilroy was here), dies at 60
1963 Lee Harvey Oswald JFK's assassinator shot dead by Jack Ruby
1974 Charles Quinlivan actor (Frank-Mr Garland), dies at 50
1980 George Raft NYC, actor, dies at 85


Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1963 CAMACHO ISSAC (IKE)---EL PASO TX.
[07/13/65 ESCAPED, ALIVE IN 98]
1963 CODY HOWARD RUDOLPH---GULFPORT MS.
1963 MC CLURE CLAUDE DONALD---CHATTANOOGA TN.
[11/28/65 RELEASED IN CAMBODIA]
1963 RORABACK KENNETH M.---BALDWIN NY.
[09/29/65 EXECUTED ON DIC LIST]
1963 SMITH GEORGE E.---CHESTER WV.
[11/28/65 RELEASED IN CAMBODIA]
1967 FOLEY BRENDAN P.---NEW YORK---NY
[NO RADIO CONTACT SAR NEG]
1967 MAYERCIK RONALD M.---EDISON NJ.
[NO RADIO CONTACT SAR NEG]
1969 BALAMONTI MICHAEL D.---GLEN FALLS NY.
[REMAINS RETURNED 11/93 IDENTIFIED 10/95]
1969 BROWN EARL C.---STANLEY NC.
[REMAINS RETURNED 11/93 - IDENTIFIED 10/95]
1969 COMER HOWARD B. JR.---JACKSONVILLE FL.
1969 DE WISPELAERE REXFORD J.---PENFIELD NY.
[REMAINS RETURNED 11/93 IDENTIFIED 10/95]
1969 FELLENZ CHARLES R.---MARSHFIELD WI.
[REMAINS RETURNED 11/93 IDENTIFIED 10/95]
1969 GANLEY RICHARD O.---KEENE NH.
[REMAINS RETURNED 11/93 IDENTIFIED 10/95]
1969 GREWELL LARRY I.---TACOMA WA.
[REMAINS RETURNED 11/93 IDENTIFIED 10/95]
1969 MATTHES PETER R.---TOLDEO OH.
[REMAINS RETURNED 11/93 IDENTIFIED 10/95]
1969 WHITE JAMES B.---ST PETERSBURG FL.
1969 WRIGHT DONALD L.---MT SAVAGE MD.
[REMAINS RETURNED 11/93 IDENTIFIED 10/95]
1970 MC INTOSH IAN---CANADA

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
0166 BC Origin of Era of Maccabees
0496 Anastasius II begins his reign as Catholic Pope
0642 Theodore I begins his reign as Catholic Pope
1639 1st observation of transit of Venus occurred (only 2, record event)
1642 Abel Janzoon Tasman discovers Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania)
1703 1st Lutheran pastor ordained in America, Justus Falckner at Philadelphia
1759 Destructive eruption of Vesuvius
1832 South Carolina passes Ordinance of Nullification
1859 Charles Darwin publishes "On the Origin of Species"
1863 Civil War battle for Lookout Mountain began in Tennessee
1871 National Rifle Association organized (NYC)
1874 Joseph F Glidden patents barbed wire
1880 Southern University established
1896 1st US absentee voting law enacted by Vermont
1903 Clyde Coleman of NYC patents automobile electric starter
1914 Benito Mussolini leaves Italy's socialist party
1922 Italian parliament gives Mussolini dictatorial powers "for 1 year"
1930 1st woman pilot on a transcontinental air flight Miss Ruth Nichols (Mineola, NY to CA), in a Lockheed-Vega, took 7 days
1938 National Semi-Pro Basketball Congress authorizes yellow basketball
1944 US bombers based on Saipan, 1st attack Tokyo
1947 John Steinbeck's novel "The Pearl" published
1947 Un-American Activities Committee finds "Hollywood 10" in contempt because of their refusal to reveal whether they were communists
1949 Britain nationalizes its steel & iron industry
1952 Agatha Christie's "The Mousetrap" opens in London
1954 1st US Presidential airplane christened
1958 Mali becomes an autonomous state within French Community
1960 Wilt Chamberlain pulls down 55 rebounds in a game (NBA record)
1963 1st live murder on TV-Jack Ruby shoots Lee Harvey Oswald
1964 Rebellion ends in Zaire
1965 Marshal Mobutu Sese Seko Kuku Ngbendu, becomes pres of Zaire
1966 400 die of respiratory failure & heart attack in killer NYC smog
1969 Apollo 12 returns to Earth
1970 Stanford's QB Jim Plunkett wins Heisman Trophy
1971 Dan "DB" Cooper parachutes from a Northwest AL 727 with $200,000
1971 Prison rebellion at Rahway State Prison NJ
1977 Miami Bob Greise passes for 6 touchdowns vs St Louis (55-14)
1983 PLO exchanges 6 Israeli prisoners for 4,500 Palestinians & Lebanese
1989 Communist Party resigns in Czechoslovakia
1991 1st international flight from Long Island's MacArthur Airport (to Mexico)
1991 After going 12-0 Washington loses to Dallas 24-21
1991 US 75th manned space mission "STS 44" Atlantis 10 launched
1992 Chinese air crash kills 141
1993 Brady bill passes establishing 5-day waiting period for handgun sales
1993 End of world, according to Ukrainian sect White Brotherhood (going to go waaay out on a limb and say they were wrong)
1995 Ireland votes to end 70-year-old ban on divorce (50.28% to 49.72%)


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Zaire : New Regime Anniversary
Mass : John F Kennedy Day (1963) (Sunday)
US : Thanksgiving (Thursday)
US : Game and Puzzle Week
National Neurofibromatosis Month


Religious Observances
Old RC : Commemoration of St John of the Cross, confessor/doctor


Religious History
1703 In Philadelphia, German_born pastor and hymnwriter Justus Falckner, 31, became the first Lutheran clergyman to be ordained in America.
1713 Birth of Father Junipero Serra, Spanish missionary to western America. From 1769, he established 9 of the first 21 Franciscan missions founded along the Pacific coast, and baptized some 6,000 Indians before his death in 1784.
1838 Canadian Sulpician missionary Franois Blanchet, 43, first arrived in the Oregon Territory. A native of Quebec, he spent 45 years planting churches in the American Northwest, and is remembered today as the "Apostle of Oregon."
1880 In Montgomery, AL, more than 150 delegates from Baptist churches in 11 states met to form the Baptist Foreign Missions Convention of the United States. Liberian missionary William W. Colley was chief organizer, and the Rev. William H. McAlpine was elected the first president.
1941 American Trappist monk Thomas Merton wrote in his "Secular Journal": 'Spiritual dryness is an acute experience of longing therefore of love.'

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist knows it"


Excuses for Being Late for Work...
"Sorry, sir. I overslept and dreamt I had a dead-end job, a windowless office and a humorless baboon for a boss."


Ads gone wrong...
2 female Boston Terrier puppies, 7 wks old, Perfect markings, 555-1234. Leave mess.


Dictionary of the Absurd...
kindred
A fear of one's family


Man's Answers to Every Question a Woman ever asks
WHY DO MEN ALWAYS SAY SUCH STUPID THINGS?
We like to. It's actually a whole lot of fun to see our partner frustrated by a few simple (and well chosen) words.


16 posted on 11/24/2004 5:29:59 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: SAMWolf; All

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1287632/posts?page=1


56 posted on 11/24/2004 8:48:53 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: SAMWolf

He described the attack on the Stark as a "horrible error," and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was quick to apologize for the "unintentional incident." Evidently, the Mirage pilot had mistaken the Stark for an Iranian tanker. Iraq promised to pay compensation to the families of the 37 slain seamen, and reparations for damages to the frigate.

IMO Cap was wrong. I believe to this day that it was a deliberate by Saddam. I think he thought we'd blame it on Iran and give him more backing, remember by this time in that war Saddam was losing and getting desperate.


62 posted on 11/24/2004 9:45:28 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; PhilDragoo
Happy Thanksgiving, y'all...

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Hey Dan, what's yer plan?! Why's the Country red?!
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Mudboy Slim

76 posted on 11/24/2004 12:25:02 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH the HildaBeast's Hubby!!)
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106 posted on 11/25/2004 6:06:26 AM PST by tomkow6 (...how 'bout a CHEER for the NFL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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