Posted on 07/02/2004 12:04:14 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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"I didn't know the Army had divers!" This is the way most US Army engineer divers are greeted. The Army has had divers for over 60 years. Despite that, Sergeant First Class Patrick Andrews tells us few people in the military, and even fewer in the civilian community, know they exist or what they do for a living. This is their story. The Army's engineer diver has a totally different training program and mission than the special forces combat diver, whom they are often confused with. The Army has approximately 150 positions for engineer divers. Of these, only about 115 are filled. A typical Army diver's life usually takes one of two paths. In one situation, a person meets a recruiter and, while reviewing the lists of jobs available, finds out about the engineer diver program. After attending basic training, the new soldier prepares to attend the first phase of Army diver training. In the other case, a soldier already in the Army decides to change jobs. After attending the first three weeks of training at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri, the student will complete the rest of his training at the Naval Diving and Salvage Training Center in Panama City, Florida. The Army student attends a special class that is similar to the US Navy second-class-diver training course. The student will start by learning scuba diving. He then learns surface-supplied diving using the US Navy MK-21 helmet. The diving student is then trained on underwater hydraulic tools, underwater welding and burning, ships husbandry, hydrographic surveys, and several other skills. Once he has completed the general Navy training, the student then attends six more weeks of Army training that specializes in underwater demolitions, equipment, and leadership skills. The training lasts 29 grueling weeks, with only one out of every three soldiers that begin the training actually graduating. The successful new diver is sent to one of the active duty diving units in Fort Eustis, Virginia, or Fort Shafter, Hawaii. It is there that the diver really begins to learn how to work and dive. Career Paths Unlike the Navy, where diving is often an additional duty that is performed when a need arises, Army divers perform diving duty every day for the rest of their career. Another difference is that instead of being segmented into different diving jobs, such as a Fleet diver, Seabee diver, or an Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) technician, an Army diver may work on a ship one week and a pier the next, or have to perform an underwater demolition mission at another time. If the Army diver is stationed at Fort Eustis, he may perform work throughout the entire United States, as well as Europe and the Middle East. If the diver is stationed at Fort Shafter, he will work in the Pacific Ocean and the Far East. In the past three years Army divers have worked for the Coast Guard, the Corps of Engineers, and other military units. Some of their accomplishments include: inspection and repair of four dams in the United States; inspecting and repairing eight ships; quay wall and pier inspection/repair in Kwajalien and Key West, Florida; and training on the Navy Offshore Petroleum Discharge System. The career progression of an Army diver is considerably different from the Navy and commercial industry. In the Army, a new diver is often the person in the water the most. This is done to train the diver as quickly as possible and help him develop the knowledge and traits necessary to become a diving supervisor. The soldier must work as a second-class diver for a year and a half before advancing to the rate of salvage diver. After another three years of experience and the completion of three more months of supervisory training, the diver can then become a diving supervisor. It is during this stage that a diver will receive extensive training on emergency and diving casualty management skills. It will take another three years of experience and an additional month of training before the diver can become a master diver. At this point, the diver is an unlimited supervisor and can take missions anywhere in the world on any type of job. The diver will also receive special incentive pay that increases with his skill level.
June 2003 Army diving "belongs to the enlisted divers and the NCO divers," the commander of the diving company at Fort Eustis, Va., said. Capt. Kevin B. Carlson, who spent 10 years as an enlisted engineer, said, "As an officer, we're visitors here." It's also the Army's only such unit. What also sets them apart from other engineers is that they are trained both in combat and construction tasks, Carlson said. He said, "Our divers have a diving rate that corresponds to their rank." E-1s to E-4s are second class divers. E-5s are salvage divers (requires no additional school, but is based on number of divers.) E-6 is a first class diver who has gone through Basic Noncommissioned Officer Course and advanced training at Panama City, Fla., and for an E-7, there's the Advanced Noncommissioned Officer Course and more training at Panama City. The divers' basic training and advanced individual training is conducted at Fort Leonard Wood, Mo. "I was very impressed with the NCOs" who are divers because of the skills that they have and their teaching of soldiers, he said. All Army divers are on active duty, and he expects it to remain that way because of the required dives and courses for promotion. "Very few had recreational diving experience. It's a lot better to get them with no experience. They're learning military diving," Carlson said. "These guys are tough. "They are as physically fit as any unit I've seen." He added that the divers came from all over the country. "Recruiters have picked up on Army diving." Carlson was particularly interested in what may be shown of Army diving in a future "Army of One" commercial that was being developed this spring. What is also different about the Army's diving program from other specialties is "we write our own doctrine" because the military occupation specialty is so small. They also use the Navy's dive manual with an Army cover. About doctrine, "We lock ourselves up and get it fixed." There are heavy and light diving teams in the Army. Four light and one heavy team are at the southeastern Virginia post. There is a heavy team in Hawaii. That translates into a little more than 100 soldiers at Eustis and about 25 at Fort Shafter, Hawaii. "They conduct port operations, engineering reconnaissance, salvage, bridge crossing and maintenance underwater," Carlson said. "We also do security swims. It's a deterrent by having a presence in water at various times," as they did at Sunny Point, N.C., and Concord, Calif., where Military Sealift Command ships were loaded with ammunition and explosives for pre-positioned deployment. Drawing on his enlisted experience: "We do a lot of demolition." To help train his soldiers, Carlson said they look for opportunities to work on projects for other agencies from the Corps of Engineers, to the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Customs Service. "It ends up being a paid training opportunity." He said one recent example of this was a Corps of Engineers project at McMillan Reservoir in Washington. "It covered a 2,000-foot pipeline that we penetrated from both ends. We videotaped every inch" to determine what condition it was in. "That was quite an adventure." Adding, "Most of the work is dirty - with little visibility." Because diving requires a great deal of equipment, Carlson said the teams have been moving to making their sets more modular, so they are more easily deployed and used. At the time of the interview, they were awaiting orders for deployment. "All my divers are diving medic-trained." Carlson said the unit's motto is: "Performance under Pressure." For more information on the Army dive field, visit LINK By: Sergeant First Class Patrick Andrews - excerpted |
Army Engineers!!
Good Night Snippy.
I didn't know either. I like how they mention they use the Navy manual with just an Army cover on it. LOL. Gotta love those engineers. ;-)
Good night Sam.
Hi, Snip.
Did not know the Army had divers. Figure we will have to make those doggies honorary swabs. A step up in the world for those lads, hey!
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Read: Hosea 11:1-11
How can I give you up, Ephraim? . . . My heart churns within Me; My sympathy is stirred. Hosea 11:8
Bible In One Year: Job 22-24; Acts 11
The experience of a heartbroken Christian woman (Ill call her Mary) illustrates how love makes the lover vulnerable. Mary was a devoted wife who deeply loved her husband, but after 8 years and two children he left her for another woman. Her faith in God and her love for her children kept her going.
Today, her son is living a sinful lifestyle, and her daughter has abandoned her husband and children. Neither of them will have anything to do with their mother.
The prophet Hosea suffered a similar heartbreak because of his adulterous wife Gomer. What he experienced mirrors how God must have felt when His people turned to pagan idolatry and all the wickedness associated with it. God had been a loving husband and father to them, but they had spurned His love. Although His holy character demanded that He chasten them, He also felt deep anguish.
Centuries later, God came to earth in the person of Jesus, who endured the agony of Calvary to bear the sins of the whole world. Yet many people still reject Him.
Yes, love is vulnerable, and there are no guarantees that it will be returned! But God continues to love, and in His strength we can do the same. Herb Vander Lugt
On This Day In History
Birthdates which occurred on July 02:
0419 Valentinian III Roman emperor (425-55)
1489 Thomas Cranmer England, archbishop/reformer/martyr
1810 Robert Augustus Toombs, Secy State (Confederacy), died in 1885
1830 John Bordenave Villepigue, Brig General (Confederate Army)
1865 Lili Braun Prussia, feminist/socialist writer (Im Schatten Titanen)
1877 Hermann Hesse Switzerland, novelist/poet (Steppenwolf, Nobel 1946)
1884 Dr Otto Bohm Prussia, scientist (helped create England Radar)
1894 Walter Brennan Swampscott Mass, actor (Real McCoys)
1905 Jean-Rene Lacoste France, tennis champ/alligator shirt designer
1908 Thurgood Marshall Md, 1st black Supreme Court justice (1967-91)
1916 Barry Gray, [Bernard Yaroslaw], interviewer (started call-in radio)
1916 Ken Curtis Lamar Colo, actor (Ripcord, Festus-Gunsmoke)
1922 Dan Rowan Beggs Okla, comedian (Rowan & Martin's Laugh-in)
1925 Marvin Rainwater Wichita Ks, country singer (Ozark Jubilee)
1925 Patrice Lumumba Zaire, revolutionary/1st premier of Congo
1937 Richard Petty auto race driver (Daytona 500-1979,81)
1939 John Sununu US Secretary of State (1989-91)
1940 Georgi Ivan Ivanov 1st Bulgarian space traveler (Soyuz 33)
1946 Ron Silver NYC, actor (Gary-Rhoda, Dear Detective, Baker's Dozen)
1947 Luci Baines Johnson Nugent Turpin daughter of Pres LBJ
1952 Linda M Godwin Cape Girardeau Missouri, PhD/astronaut (STS 37)
1956 Jerry Hall Mesquite Tx, model/Mrs Mick Jagger
1959 Wendy B Lawrence Jacksonville Fla, USN Lt Commander/astronaut
1964 Jos Canseco Havana Cuba, Oakland As (1986 Rookie Year, 1988 AL MVP)
1967 Debee Ashby Coventry England, topless model
Well what do you know, it makes sense that the Army Engineers would have a dive program but it is not something you would think about I guess.
Back to the stairs for me, almost done.
The USAF T-birds are in Kansas City this weekend. They are preforming just a couple of miles from my house, YEAH
Unfortunately I am on nights this weekend so I don't know if I will get to see them. Maybe I can sneek a peek one afternoon and skip my nap, yeah thats the ticket ;-)
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
Good morning, PE. Love the Flag-o-gram!! LOL
Happy 4th of July to you and the family.
Thanks snippy. Rock On, Divers!
LOL!
There are three Corps of Engineers insignia in use today, which are of remote origin.
In chronological order of approximate dates of adoption they are: The Essayons Button, first definitely known to have been worn during the War of 1812; The Turreted Castle, believed to have been worn by the Cadets of West Point during the summer of 1839, and approved for use on the uniform of the Corps of Engineers during the same year: and The Corps of Engineers Seal, believed to have been designed and used as early as 1866-1867. (Formally designated as the Official Seal April 6, 1897.)
While we do not know who actually executed the designs of these heraldic devices, the Engineer officers who had the most to do with ordering the execution, adoption, or use of these three insignia for the Corps, were all distinguished for the parts they played in shaping the history of our nation. Each served his country notably; and each reached the top of the Corps by being appointed Chief Engineer of the United States Army. One of the group had the added distinction of being awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for gallantry "beyond the call of duty." And one became Commander-in-Chief of the Army itself.
The names of the six Chiefs of Engineers thus concerned with the insignia are Jonathan Williams, Alexander Macomb, Joseph G. Totten, Richard Delafield, Andrew A. Humphreys, and John Moulton Wilson.
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