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The FReeper Foxhole Studies Military Bands in America - October 31st, 2003
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Posted on 10/31/2003 3:01:59 AM PST by snippy_about_it



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Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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A Brief History of Military Bands in America




For over 200 years, military bands have entertained troops and raised the morale of war-weary soldiers.

Pre-Revolutionary War

As far back as 1633, in the Colony of Virginia, drummers performed for marching practice during militia drills. In 1659, the Dutch supplied the militia of their new colony with drums. In 1687, the importance of music to the militia was further demonstrated when Virginia voted to purchase musical instruments for its militia. All free white males were required to serve in these units and supply their own rifles. Drummers received money for their services and public funds furnished their instruments. The first known band in the colonies was a band in New Hampshire in 1653 comprising of 15 hautbois (oboe) and 2 drums.

The elite militia units in the colonies obtained the services of bands. Officers funded these bands. In 1747, the Pennsylvania colonists formed regiments and Colonel Benjamin Franklin was the regimental commander in Philadelphia. In 1756, the Regiment of Artillery Company of Philadelphia, commanded by Franklin, marched with over 1000 men accompanied by "Hautboys and Fifes in Ranks." It is likely that the term "hautboy" did not refer solely to oboes, but to military musicians, and that Franklin had a well-balanced band. This marks the first recorded appearance of an American military band in the colonies.

The Colonies go to War



Musicians in the minuteman companies provided the steady rhythms needed to drill the new militia. On April 19, 1775, William Diamond (in some accounts Dinman), a drummer in Captain John Parker's Lexington militia company, beat To Arms at the Battle of Lexington. Also present was Jonathan Harrington, a fifer. Diamond later went on to march the Lexington militia to Bunker Hill. Some time after Bunker Hill, Diamond set aside his drum in favor of a musket and served throughout the remainder of the Revolution, to include the Battle of Yorktown, as a foot soldier.

Support for independence grew and spread throughout the colonies as the war in New England intensified. The colonists held rallies with patriotic speeches and banners. Militia companies drilled while bands played patriotic melodies.

At least seven regiments were known to have bands. The bands of the 3rd and 4th Regiments of Artillery served until the end of the war. Near the end of the Revolution, both bands gave frequent civilian concerts. One of them continued to exist into the nineteenth century under the name of the "Massachusetts Band."

Musicians were largely young boys from the ages 9 to 14. Congress approved the plan for soldiers no longer enlisting to be only musicians. Drummers and fifers were now picked from the ranks of enlisted personnel. Thus is the first reference to musicians performing soldierly duties.

The War of 1812

During the War of 1812, few changes occurred in the development of Army music. The only exception was the shift from fifes and drums to bugles sounding the signals. The bugler was located at the side of his commander.

Militia bands were a common sight during the War of 1812. The first military band of New York City was organized in 1810 and offered its' services to the 11th Regiment of the New York Militia. It was stationed at Bledsoe's Island in the New York Harbor, the site of the Statue of Liberty. The band served throughout the War of 1812.

Civil War Bands

The number of military bands grew tremendously during the first years of the Civil War (1861-1865) when expenses were assumed by the federal government. In 1862 Congress consolidated over 200 regimental bands into about 60 brigade bands and limited the number of musicians in military bands to sixteen.



Some military bands had a less-than-professional appearance. This band (pictured below) was under the command of General James A. Blunt in Kansas in 1863.



Brigade bands performed concerts for the officers, provided music for marching troops, and aided in kitchen and medical duties at hospitals and in the field.

This over-the-shoulder, or backfire, cornet was played by George Bind of Company C, 7th Kansas Cavalry during the Civil War. These horns were designed to point back behind the musician's shoulder so that troops marching behind the band could better hear the music. This horn was manufactured by Gilmore, Graves & Co. of Boston around 1861.



Military Bands on the Frontier

After the Civil War bands continued to play an important role in the military. Army regulations required bands to be stationed only at those posts serving as regimental headquarters. In Kansas, that meant Fort Leavenworth, Fort Riley, Fort Harker, and Fort Hays.

The regulations also allowed bands to travel around the region to posts occupied by companies of the regiment. Frontier military bands often performed concerts at nearby communities. People traveled great distances to hear military bands play.



Commanding officers had a wide latitude in the uniforms and outfits worn by band members, as is apparent with the band at Fort Hays in 1886.

An event that has long been premeditated . . . came to a successful issue last Wednesday evening: simply the grand ball given by "C" Company, Sixth Cavalry. The intent was to make it stupendous and so it was. Probably no similar event has ever transpired in Western Kansas that can equal it . . . . There was an aggregate of two hundred couples--parties from Wallace, Ellis, Dodge, Victoria, Russell, and Ellsworth graced the fete with their presence. Hays City turned out en masse, and, in fact, the crowd was immense, and good will pervaded the entire affair.
--Junction City Union, April 4, 1874


Spanish-American War

Regimental bands accompanied American troops to Cuba and the Philippines for "The Splendid Little War."

The 20th Kansas Volunteers were commanded by Frederick Funston of Iola. Members of the 20th Kansas Band distinguished themselves in the Philippines, often taking part as stretcher bearers and sometimes in combat. After the war a number of musical compositions, like Funston's Fighting 20th March were written in tribute to Funston and his men.



"The War to End All Wars"

Over 200 American military bands were stationed in Europe during World War I. Because the quality of these bands was fairly low, military bandmasters' schools were established. Many Americans got a musical education while serving in the military, and after the war pursued careers in music education in the public schools.



Corporal Martin G. Miller used this tenor saxophone while in the band of the 130th Field Artillery, 35th Division, from 1917 to 1919. It was manufactured by Frank Holton & Co. of Chicago around 1903.



World War II and Beyond

In 1941, the War Department authorized the organization of over 400 bands for the American military. Smaller ensembles often formed out of the larger concert bands, and popular music such as jazz and big-band music was reflected in the selections performed by these military bands.



As in World War II, bands accompanied combat units into action in Korea. Bands traveled many miles to perform several concerts a day for units close to the front line. One report read, "The closer we play to the front line, and recently we have been within a half-mile of it, the more enthusiastic has been the response to our music."

By 1969, eight bands were stationed in Vietnam. Bands in Vietnam, like those in Korea, often performed in forward areas. They flew into combat areas with instruments and performed pop concerts or military ceremonies when needed.

Desert Storm/Desert Shield

Army Bands played a part in these conflicts by increasing morale for Soldiers and providing music for military ceremonies. Bands' duties were varied. For example, the 3rd Armored Division Band performed on the enemy side of a berm while the 24th Infantry Division advanced into Iraqi territory; and many bandsmen spent countless hours guarding the perimeter.

Members of the 1st Infantry Division Band from Fort Riley, Kansas formed a rock 'n roll band to entertain the troops while stationed in Saudi Arabia in 1991.






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To: w_over_w
that isn't the winds picking up, it's the fire sucking the oxygen out of the air . . . fires need oxygen to breath . .

Just like explained in the movie "Backdraft", you only have to watch fire for a short period, to understand that it truly is a living, consuming, breathing thing. Scary, yet awe inspiring.

61 posted on 10/31/2003 11:21:59 AM PST by Johnny Gage (Everybody is someone elses weirdo)
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Thanks Johnny. Amazing planes.
62 posted on 10/31/2003 11:23:00 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: GailA
Thanks for the update GailA.

63 posted on 10/31/2003 12:18:04 PM PST by SAMWolf (This is yesterday's message.)
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To: w_over_w
LOL! Sometimes I wonder if theer are any real reporters left in the US.
64 posted on 10/31/2003 12:19:08 PM PST by SAMWolf (This is yesterday's message.)
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To: SCDogPapa
Thanks for the bio on Glenn Miller.

American Patrol

Tuxedo Junction

65 posted on 10/31/2003 12:23:17 PM PST by SAMWolf (This is yesterday's message.)
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St. Louis Blues March
66 posted on 10/31/2003 12:25:39 PM PST by SAMWolf (This is yesterday's message.)
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History story for Foxhole from WW-2...Although the date was November 1943 ..It might as well have been Halloween ..for the trick and treat that would occur escorting the President on USS Iowa.

THE ODYSSEY OF THE SHIP USS WILLIAM D. PORTER DD-579

THE ESCAPADES OF THE 'WILLIE DEE', AS SHE WAS AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN, BY HER FORMER CREW, STARTED SHORTLY AFTER HER COMMISSIONING, IN ORANGE N.J., 6 JULY 1943. COMPLETING HER SHAKEDOWN AND ACCEPTANCE BY THE NAVY, SHE WAS ORDERED TO JOIN A TASK FORCE, FOR AN UNKNOWN FORAY INTO THE ATLANTIC OCEAN AND BEYOND.

THE VEIL OF SECRECY HAS BEEN LIFTED AND THE TASK FORCE CONSISTED OF FOUR DESTROYERS AND THE BATTLESHIP BB61, USS IOWA. IT IS ALSO KNOWN THAT ON THE "IOWA", WAS PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT, CORDELL H. HULL, SECRETARY OF STATE, AND FLEET ADMIRAL ERNEST J. KING, CHIEF OF ALL NAVAL OPERATIONS.

THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY TO MEET WITH PRIME MINISTER WINSTON CHURCHILL, AND RUSSIAN PREMIER JOSEF STALIN, AT THE NOW HISTORIC MEDITTEREAN CONFERENCE IN THE MEDITTEREAN AREA.

ON THE MORNING OF HER DEPARTURE, FROM NORFOLK NAVAL BASE, THE 1ST "INCIDENT" OCCURRED. WHILE BACKING AWAY FROM A SISTER SHIP, MOORED ALONGSIDE, SHE MANAGED TO DEMOLISH SISTER SHIP LIFE LINES, RAILINGS, DAMAGED THE BOAT DAVITS AND THE SISTER GIG PLUS OTHER ASSORTED ITEMS. WITH ONLY A SLIGHTLY SCRATCHED ANCHOR.

IT ONLY REQUIRED 24 HOURS FOR A NEW ADVENTURE TO KEEP THE STORY GOING. THE TASK FORCE WAS RUNNING A MODERATE SPEED ZIG-ZAG PATTERN THROUGH WELL KNOWN "U-BOAT" INFESTED WATERS. RADIO SILENCE WAS THE ORDER OF THE DAY AND WAS STRICTLY OBSERVED. COMMUNICATION BETWEEN SHIPS WAS BY BLINKER LIGHT, SEMAPHORE, OR FLAG HOISTS.

SILENCE AND SPEED, IN THOSE WATERS WAS CONSIDERED THE BEST OF SUB DEFENSE. IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING WATCH, A TREMENDOUS EXPLOSION WAS FELT THROUGH-OUT THE FORCE. IMMEDIATELY SHIPS BEGAN PRE-PLANNED ANTISUB MANEUVERS WHICH CONTINUED UNTIL IN REPLY OF WHAT HAPPENED AND WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE CAME THE REPLY, FROM THE SKIPPER OF THE 'WILLIE DEE', "WE DID IT".

A DEPTH CHARGE ON HER FANTAIL RACK HAD NOT BEEN SECURED PROPERIY, VIBRATED LOOSE, AND ROLLED OFF THE STERN. OBVIOUSLY THE DEPTH HAD BEEN AT A DEEP EXPLOSIVE SETTING OR THE "WILLIE-DEE" MIGHT HAVE LOST HER STERN. TO PUT IT MILDLY. THE CAREER OF CAPTAIN WILFRED A. WALTER, LT.CDR USN, WAS FAST BECOMING SIDE TRACKED.

THE NEXT EVENT HAPPENED SHORTLY THEREAFTER. ADDING TO THE WOES OF THE SHIP, A FREAKISH WAVE SWEPT OVER THE SHIP, TEARING LOOSE LIFE RAFTS, SAFETY RAILINGS AND EVEN ONE POOR LONE SAILOR WENT OVERBOARD AND WAS NEVER FOUND. IN ADDITION THE WATER WENT DOWN THE INTAKES DROWNED OUT THE FIREROOMS LEAVING THE SHIP WITHOUT POWER. THE CAPTAIN WAS NOW REQUIRED TO MAKE HOURLY REPORTS OF READINESS TO THE TF COMMANDER. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MERCIFUL IF SHE HAD RETURNED TO NORFOLK FOR MORE TRAINING BUT THAT WAS NOT TO BE.

THE STAGE WAS NOW SET FOR NOVEMBER 14, 1943, A DAY WHERE THE DAWN CAME WITH A MODERATE SEA, BRIGHT BLUE SKY AND A MODERATE BREEZE. THE TF WAS JUST EAST OF BERMUDA AND THE PRESIDENT MADE A REQUEST THAT IOWA AND OTHER SHIPS RUN THROUGH THEIR PACES WITH ANTI-AIRCRAFT PRACTICE AND SIMULATED TORPEDO RUNS. EVEN IN SUB-INFESTED WATERS, THIS IS A REQUEST THAT CAPTAINS GROW GRAY HAIR, AND SAY "AYE-AYE SIR".

THE BATTLESHIIP IOWA STARTED LAUNCHING WEATHER BALOONS FOR TARGET PRACTICE. IT WAS EXCITING TO SEE OVER 100(?) GUNS FIRING AT THE BALLOONS. THE PRESIDENT WAS DULY PROUD OF HIS NAVY. ADMIRAL ERNEST J. KING WAS JUST AS PROUD, A TRUE MONARCH OF THE NAVY, WHERE DISAGREEMENT WITH HIM, IT IS SAID, COULD BE THE END OF A NAVAL CAREER, YET UP TO THIS TIME NO ONE KNEW ABOUT SHOOTING A TORPEDO AT HIM!!

WE KNOW THAT BALLOONS CAN'T SHOOT BACK! MEANWHILE, OVER ON THE "WIILIE-DEE", CAPTAIN WALTER WATCHED THE DRILL ON THE IOWA, AND POSSIBLY THINKING A BIT ABOUT CAREER REDEMPTION, REQUESTED PERMISSION TO SHOOT DOWN ANY STRAY BALLOONS THE IOWA GUNNERS MISSED. PERMISSION WAS GRANTED AND THE GUNNERS WERE ACCURATE AND THE CAPTAIN WAS HAPPY.

THE LAST EXERCISE OF THE DAY WAS FOR THE DESTROYERS TO MAKE 'MOCK' TORPEDO RUNS ON THE IOWA AND THROUGH A SYSTEM ANALYSIS BE ABLE TO SCORE THE EFFICIENCY AND ACCURACY 0N EACH RUN. DOWN ON THE TORPEDOE MOUNTS OF THE 'WILLIE DEE', THE CREW PREPARED TO TAKE THEIR TURN AT THE PRACTICE RUNS, AND WERE WORKING HARD AT BEING READY. THE IOWA, EVEN THOUGH AT 6000 YARDS AWAY WAS DESCRIBED "AS SO LARGE SHE BLOTTED OUT THE HORIZON". THE TORPEDO MEN RESPONSIBLE FOR EACH MOUNT, OF WHICH THERE WERE TWO MOUNTS, WERE IN PLACE, AND WERE IN PRACTICE SESSIONS, RESPONSIBLE FOR REMOVING THE ACTIVE DETONATORS, IN CASE OF ACCIDENTAL FIRING, THE TORPEDO WOULD NOT EXPLODE. UNFORTUNATELY, SOMEONE FORGOT OR MISSED THE PRIMER TO FIRE ONE TORPEDO AND A SURPRISE WAS COMING TO A SHIP.

UP ON THE BRIDGE THE ORDERS WERE GIVEN TO COME ABOUT, IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE DIVISION OF DESTROYERS, AND WHEN THEY CAME ABEAM OF THE TARGET IOWA, IN FIRING POSITION, THE NEW TORPEDO OFFICER ORDERED THE SIMULATED FIRING, AND COMMANDED, "FIRE ONE","FIRE TWO", AND "FIRE THREE:, THERE WAS NO ""FIRE FOUR"", AS THE SEQUENCE WAS INTERRUPTED BY AN UNMISTAKABLE SOUND "W-H-0-O-O-O-S-H", AND THE SOUND OF A TORPEDO LEAVING THE TUBE.

ONE OF THE OFFICERS, A LT. H. SEWARD LEWIS, WHO WAS ON THE BRIDGE, LATER DESCRIBED THE NEXT FEW MOMENTS, "AS PANDEMONIUM IN HELL", WOULD BE LIKE IF IT BROKE LOOSE. JUST AFTER THE TORPEDO HIT THE WATER, HE INNOCENTLY ASKED THE CAPTAIN" DID YOU GIVE PERMISSION TO FIRE A TORPEDO?" CAPTAIN WALTER UTTERED SOMETHING AKIN TO "HELL N-0-0-0-0-0-a-a-a-a-a-a, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED"??

THE NEXT 5 MINUTES UP ON THE BRIDGE WERE PURE PANDEMONIUM. MEN WERE RUNNING BACK AND FORTH, ORDERS WERE BEING SHOUTED, CONFLICTING ONE ANOTHER, THE QUARTERMASTER STATED, HE WAS TOTALLY CONFUSED TRYING TO LOG EVERY ORDER ACTION. BY BLINKER THEY TRIED TO CONTACT THE IOWA, BUT THE DIRECTION OF THE TORPEDO WAS REVERSED, FLAGS WERE USED TO INDICATE EMERGENCY SITUATION, SO FINALLY THE CAPTAIN OF THE "WILLIE DEE" WENT ON THE RADIO "TBS", WE CALLED IT "TALK BETWEEN SHIPS", WHICH WHILE NOT TECHNICALLY CORRECT, WAS ALL RIGHT. THE RADIO OFFICER ON THE IOWA WAS DEMANDING TO KNOW WHO THE OFFENDER WAS BREAKING-SILENCE, BUT FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THE DANGER, AND STEPS WERE IMMEDIATELY TAKEN TO HAVE THE IOWA INTO A FLANK SPEED TURN TO AVOID THE ONRUSHING TORPEDO.

THE PRESIDENT HAD BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE PROBLEM. HIS SECRET SERVICE MEN ALL SURROUNDED HIM, WITH THEIR "45'S" DRAWN, AS IF TO SHOOT THE TORPEDO OR STOP AN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT. THE PRESIDENT HOWEVER WANTED HIS WHEELCHAIR PUSHED OVER TO WHERE HE COULD LOOK AT THE TORPEDO.

SUDDENLY THERE CAME A TREMENDOUS EXPLOSION BLAST AS THE TORPEDO HIT THE CHURNING WAKE OF THE POWERFUL BACKWASH OF THE IOWA'S SCREWS IN A FLANK SPEED TURN, AND EXPLODED. DISASTER HAD BEEN AVERTED AND SOME NAVAL CAREERS WERE IN STEEP DECLINE.

THE TASK FORCE COMMANDER HIMSELF ALSO BROKE RADIO SILENCE WANTING TO KNOW WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FIRING OF THE TORPEDO. BACK CAME THE RADIO REPLY FROM THE CAPTAIN OF THE WILLIAM D PORTER, "I AM SIR, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE".

IMMEDIATELY, ORDERS WERE ISSUED TO THE "WILLIE DEE", To PUT INTO PORT AT BERMUDA AND ALL SHIPS COMPANY, MEN & OFFICERS ALIKE WERE TO BE CONSIDERED UNDER ARREST, WHILE A NAVAL INQUIRY WAS HELD. IT IS THE ONLY TIME IN U.S. NAVAL HISTORY THAT AN ENTIRE SHIP WAS PLACED UNDER ARREST TO AWAIT POSSIBILE COURT MARTIAL.

WHEN THE SHIP APPROACHED THE PIER, WITHOUT INCIDENT, SHE WAS MET BY A FULL TURNOUT OF U.S. MARINES TO STAND GUARD OVER HER. A BOARD OF INQUIRY WAS QUICKLY CONVENED, BEHINND CLOSED DOORS TO DETERMINE THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE ENTIRE INCIDENT AND TO PUNISH THE APPROPRIATE OFFENDERS.

IT TOOK SEVERAL DAYS OF QUESTIONING OF THE BRIDGE & TORPEDO PERSONNEL WHO WERE INVOLVED. AFTER A LENGTTY SESSION OF QUESTIONING, LAWTON DAVIS, TORPEDOMAN 3RD CLASS, ADMITTED IT WAS HE WHO HAD NEGLECTED TO DEFUSE THE TORPEDO AND HAD THROWN, THE FIRING PRIMER OVER THE SIDE, TO HIDE HIS MISTAKE.

THE FINDINGS OF THE INCIDENT WERE THEN CLOSED AND COURT MARTIAL AND REPRIMANDS WERE HANDED DOWN, SO THE NAVY DIDN'T WAIT TO HAVE THEIR DUCKS IN ORDER AND SET FOR A REVIEW BY HIGHER AUTHORITY. THE CAPTAIN AND SEVERAL OTHERS FOUND THEMSELVES HEADED FOR OBSCURE ASSIGNMENTS AND TORPEDOMAN 3RD CLASS LAWTON DAVIS WAS SENTENCED TO 14 YEARS HARD LABOR AT PORTSMOUTH NAVAL PRISON.

HOWEVER, PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT HIMSELF REVIEWED THE INQUIRY PROCEEDINGS, AND REQUESTED "NO" PUNISISHMENT BE HANDED DOWN AS HE FELT IT WAS AN ACCIDENTAL AND UNINTENTIONAL MISHAP. THE "WILLIE-DEE" RECEIVED NEW ORDERS,SENDING HER TO THE ALEUTIANS FOR PATROL DUTY. APPARENTLY THE NAVY FIGURED SHE WOULD BE IN A SAFE PLACE, WITH HER TALENT FOR MISHAPS. HOWEVER, JUST TO KEEP HER RECORD INTACT, UPON ARRIVAL AFTER A SHORT TIME IN THE AREA, SHE PULLED INTO THE LOCAL NAVAL OPERATING BASE, AND MANAGED TO FIRE AN INERT 5"-38CAL. SHELL WHICH WHEN IT CAME DOWN, HIT IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE NAVAL OPERATING BASE COMMANDERS YARD. NEEDLESS TO SAY, BUT OKINAWA HERE SHE COMES.

HER POPULARITY WAS NOW BEGINNING TO BECOME KNOWN AND SHE WAS THEN ASSIGNED TO THE WESTERN PACIFIC FOR DUTY AS A RADAR PICKET SHIP. IT WAS HOPED SHE JUST MIGHT DO SOME DAMAGE TO THE JAPANESE FOR A CHANGE.

WE UNDERSTAND SHE DID DISTINGUISH HERSELF BY KNOCKING DOWN SEVERAL KAMIKAZES, BUT BUT ALSO WAS CREDITED WITH 3 U.S. COMBAT AIRPATROL AIRCRAFT. OF COURSE WE ON THE ANTHONY KNOW HOW RECKLESS AND DETERMINED THE CAP WAS, SO I FOR ONE WOULD BE HESITANT TO BLAME THE "WILLIE-DEE" ENTIRELY. AS ALWAYS, WE'LL NEVER KNOW.

HOWEVER, THE USS LUCE DD522, (LATER A CASUALTY OF THE KAMIKAZES), SPOKE VERY UNKINDLY OF THE "WILLIE-DEE", AFTER DURING AN ENGAGEMENT THE "LUCE'S", DECKS SIDES AND SUPERSTRUCTURE WAS HIT BY 20mm AND 40inm FIRE WHEN COMING ON STATION THE COMMON THING TO HEAR WAS, "DON'T SHOOT, WE'RE REPUBLICANS", FROM THE INCOMING CAP. BY THIS TIME SHE HAD BECOME USED TO THE JOKES ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THEIR SHIP.

ON JUNE 10th, 1945, 2 YEARS AND APPROX. 10 MONTHS, HER LUCK, MOST OF IT BAD CAME TO AN END. WHILE ON STATION, IN COMPANY OF ANOTHER SHIP (?), THEY WERE TRACKING A FLIGHT OF BOGIES. A PLANE LATER DESCRIBED AS A "VAL" APPARENTLY HEADED FOR THE SISTER DESTROYER, AND WHILE UNDER HEAVY AA FIRE SUDDENLY VEERED AT THE "WILLIE-DEE", AND CRASHED ALONGSIDE.

WE HERE TONIGHT, KNOW WELL THAT EXPERIENCE AND FEELING. TWICE IF WE CAN COUNT, AND WE WERE LUCKY THE RESULTS WEREM'T THAT OF THE "WILLIE-DEE". THE KAMIKAZE HAD MISSED THEM AND THEY WERE BEGINNING A SIGH OF RELIEF, WHEN SUDDENLY THERE WAS A LOUD UNDERWATER EXPLOSION THAT SHOOK THE SHIP. AS YOU WELL KNOW THESE EVENTS TAKE PLACE IN SECONDS, ALTHOUGH IT MAY SEEM LIKE HOURS, LATER.

THE AIRCRAFT BOMB HAD DETONATED UNDERNEATH THE SHIPS HULL, IT PROBABLY WAS A LARGE, POSSIBLE THE EQUIVALENT TO OUR 500 LB TYPE, BUT WHEN IT WENT OFF, IT CRACKED THE PLATING AND SEAMS OF, BOTH ENGINE AND FIREROOMS, FLOODING ALL SPACE, CUTTING ALL POWER AND DAMAGE CONTROL WAS DEEMED IMPOSSIBLE. THE SHIP WAS SINKING.

WITH NO CHANCE OF DAMAGE CONTROL, HIS SHIP WAS SINKING UNDER HIM, THE CAPTAIN RELUCTANTLY GAVE THE ORDER TO ABANDON SHIP. IT WAS A VERY ORDERLY OVER THE SIDES, NO WOUNDED, LOGS AND CODE BOOKS WERE SAVED, INCLUDING MANY PERSONAL EFFECTS.

THREE HOURS (APPROX) LATER THE CAPTAIN RELUCTANTLY LEFT HIS COMMAND AND HAD RECEIVED A GREAT RESPONSE TO HIS CALL FOR ASSISTANCE IN THE RESCUE OF HIS CREW.

THERE HAD TO BE MIXED EMOTIONS AS THE OFFICERS AND CREW WATCHED THE WILLIAM D PORTER DD579 SLIDE STERN FIRST INTO THE 400 FATHOMS OF THE DEEP BLUE PACIFIC. THIS FROM A SHIP THAT ALMOST CHANGED NATIONAL AND WORLD POLITICS.

EVERY SO OFTEN THE CREW, OFFICERS AND MEN ALIKE, GATHER FOR A REUNION AND THE SEA STORIES ARE REPEATED OF FABLED LIBERTIES, AND TO MOST OF ALL GIVE THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THERE ARE CHUCKLES AND LAUGHTER BUT NOTHING LIKE THE HEART WRENCHING EMBARRASSMENT OF NOVEMBER 1943.

WE WISH THEM ALL GODSPEED.

Apologies for the High case..as it is a cut/drag from an article on the USS Anthony's webpage.


67 posted on 10/31/2003 12:36:18 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; bentfeather; Darksheare; Samwise; Johnny Gage; Light Speed; All
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TO EVERYONE AT THE FOXHOLE!

THANK YOU to our service men and women, past and present, for your service to the USA!!

No way I'll ever forget!!


68 posted on 10/31/2003 1:01:11 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: radu
Happy halloween, beware fevered kisses by the dark of the moon.
69 posted on 10/31/2003 1:12:24 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm young, at the top of my game, full of youthful energy, so call me Perfidious Rex.)
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To: Light Speed
Fascinating story about the "Willie Dee". Thanks for sharing it.

Sounds like she had a curse on her.
70 posted on 10/31/2003 1:23:13 PM PST by SAMWolf (This is yesterday's message.)
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To: radu
Hi Radu. Happy Halloween to you too.
71 posted on 10/31/2003 1:23:38 PM PST by SAMWolf (This is yesterday's message.)
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To: Light Speed
Sounds like what happened to a certain howitzer section of a certain unit after they vaped a road behind the post commander by firing 'out of the box' and WOEFULLY missing the target.
72 posted on 10/31/2003 1:34:19 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm young, at the top of my game, full of youthful energy, so call me Perfidious Rex.)
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To: Darksheare
Hi there Darksheare.

beware fevered kisses by the dark of the moon.

As long as it's this guy doin' it, my throat is bared. *giggle*

(He's my absolute favorite vampire, Radu)

73 posted on 10/31/2003 1:38:46 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: SAMWolf
Hey-ya SAM.

It's almost hard to believe it's Halloween....it's HOT outside today. It's usually pretty chilly this time of year.
NO complaints though! LOL! That means I can wear my Graveyard Tramp costume tonight and not freeze.
74 posted on 10/31/2003 1:43:13 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: radu

75 posted on 10/31/2003 1:43:24 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm young, at the top of my game, full of youthful energy, so call me Perfidious Rex.)
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To: Darksheare
Happy halloween, beware fevered kisses by the dark of the moon.

But why?

76 posted on 10/31/2003 2:03:23 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: radu
Happy Halloween to you radu.
77 posted on 10/31/2003 2:04:31 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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OOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I love this image! One of your works?
78 posted on 10/31/2003 2:15:18 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Light Speed
I hope it's not rude of me but I laughed through the entire report. LOL.

Thanks Light Speed. Those poor souls.

On a serious note may the sailor who did get lost overboard be resting in peace.
79 posted on 10/31/2003 2:17:18 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: radu
I happen to know that we know this image. :)
80 posted on 10/31/2003 2:18:00 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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