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To: lormand
that America is to blame for Islamic hate in the world,

Ron Paul never said this, and your attempt to spin what he did say is despicable.

or that we are poised for a "Gulf of Tonkin" style raid

We are too pure for that, are we? You have an incredibly naive view of men. Look LBJ was not some wicked monster, any more than Bush is. He was a fallible man, who, when he got under pressure fabricated an event to have an excuse for what he considered a GOOD use of our military power. He was an AMERICAN! One of the "good guys." I don't think that made him a diabolical monster. It just made him another man in power who made a mistake which wound up costing WAY more than he thought it would, to the nation, to himself, to his party,and most importantly, to thousands of human lives.

Snatching back your skirts in feigned horror that someone would suggest that such a thing is possible today just makes you look stupid and naive, not patriotic.

I will gladly accept any name or title, as long as I'm no surrender monkey like Ron Paul and his minions of Paulistinians.

Fine. Now that we have established by your own mouth that you are NOT a historical conservative, but a neocon interloper who has helped hijack the party and its principles, the debate should move more smoothly.

386 posted on 07/21/2007 12:51:04 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
"Ron Paul never said this, and your attempt to spin what he did say is despicable."

Slept thru the debates eh?

"We are too pure for that, are we?"

Do you think our current administration has done this, or will do this?

"Fine. Now that we have established by your own mouth that you are NOT a historical conservative, but a neocon interloper who has helped hijack the party and its principles, the debate should move more smoothly."

What is this "we have established" nonsense that you spew?

Self-importance on parade.

392 posted on 07/21/2007 1:01:33 PM PDT by lormand (...doing the research on Ron Paul that Paulistinians refuse to do.)
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