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To: lormand
Was Ronald Reagan known as a Libertarian?

That is the wrong question, and a typical dodge I would expect a neocon to make. The correct question is "How did Ronald Reagan identify himself with regards to Libertarians?" However, you have had that answer shoved in your face so many times already that it is no wonder you don't want to go there.

Neocons are NOT conservative. Neocons are war mongerers because they believe in the use of state power to achieve their ends, whether it be domestic or foreign. Neocons are yapping nitwit imbeciles who are appallingly ignorant of what historical conservatives have believed, which BEGINS with the premise that state power is to be eschewed, not grasped and utilized for "good purposes." Neocons are so achingly stupid about the nature and dangers of political power that they would sneer and attack the ideas of the founders of our republic as "cut and run cowards." I have seen them do so on FR. Pull up a quote by Hamilton, clean up the language to make it 20th century and these drooling chimpanzees will attack it as being short sighted or cowardly. Don't tell me it doesn't happen because I have seen it happen with Jefferson, Adams, Washington, JQ Adams and others. They don't hesitate to bash Buckley, who has the balls to call this bunch what they are, a bunch of constitution tramplers, and power hungry elitists. As of yet, I have not figured out whether the Free Republic neocons are duplicitous lying fascists who know what they are not historical conservatives but have hijacked the movement and deliberately lie about it, or they are frighteningly stupid cerebral black holes who think islamofascism is something new (rather than something the west has been continually fighting for 1400 years) and that because the USA was attacked on 9/11, that means "everything has changed".... translated "all this fou fou about liberties, freedom, minding our own business and eschewing nation building has got to go...., because we are at WAR!" Either way, this bunch of liars/dunderheads (pick one or both!) will denounce every single figurehead of conservative thought for the sake of their grand pipe dream, including Reagan, who is blamed for "running" from Lebanon and not "finishing the job."

If you call em out by name, you violate the posting rules on FR, so we just have to call them "neocons."

However, I can comment on this line you posted:

The closer you look at the two, the greater the contrast. That is why we Conservatives don't call ourselves Libertarians.

Yhe historical "Russel Kirk" "William Buckley" "Barry Goldwater" "Ronald Reagan" type leaders of the Conservative Movement, would be defined by the neocons as "libertarians." Could they see what is now purporting to be the "Conservative Movement" would have helped to kill this fascist imposter and then p*ssed on its grave.

328 posted on 07/21/2007 11:24:05 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
"That is the wrong question, and a typical dodge I would expect a neocon to make"

I refuse to even try and define the definition of "neocon".

Surrender monkeys like yourself attempt to tag names on those you disagree with with neocon or whatever.

I'm just someone who believes in most all of what Ron Paul believes, but just doesn't blame America for the reason Islamist want a world wide caliphate. Unlike Ron Paul, I don't believe that our Government is poised to stage a "Gulf of Tonkin" incident.

Keeping your head in the sand of "libertarianism" is a huge step in allowing the islamist to chop it off. It will be more convienient for them.

I don't know what your problem with "neocons" are, but it could be you just hate jews, like most surrender monkeys repeat.

338 posted on 07/21/2007 11:42:09 AM PDT by lormand (...doing the research on Ron Paul that Paulistinians refuse to do.)
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