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Tabernacle Consigned to Cry Room Organ, Piano Enshrined Front and Center
San Diego News Notes ^ | October 2003 | Robert Kumpel

Posted on 10/01/2003 7:49:27 PM PDT by Land of the Irish

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1 posted on 10/01/2003 7:49:27 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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2 posted on 10/01/2003 7:54:01 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish; sitetest
Just curious..what would you say of one who ordered side altars removed from a Cathedral?
4 posted on 10/01/2003 8:00:16 PM PDT by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: third double
How come none of these parishoners give their real names?

They fear they'll be labeled "schismatics". It's the new catchword of the neo's.

5 posted on 10/01/2003 8:09:24 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
A sad story which is all too common. Perhaps these heretical priests have been visited upon us for our sins. All happens according to God's divine providence, and if God has seen fit to send these priests to us like an invading army of Vandals into Rome, it must be because it is necessary for our sanctification.
6 posted on 10/01/2003 8:09:35 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Catholicguy
your Anglican gafly here again...

you asked "Just curious..what would you say of one who ordered side altars removed from a Cathedral?"

nobody asked me, but just for the record I'd say the guy was trying to pretend to be one of us Protestants. Besides, don't you Roman folks have Canon Laws concerning what is required in the Sanctuary? It would seem that a good Canon lawyer might be able to stop some of these abuses, no?


7 posted on 10/01/2003 8:13:11 PM PDT by ahadams2
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To: Catholicguy
Just curious..what would you say of one who ordered side altars removed from a Cathedral?

Generally this is done to encourage concelebration. Side altars are a reminder of the time before Vatican II when there was no concelebration, and each priest had to celebrate his own Mass. It's still true today in some traditional monasteries that there will be numerous Masses occurring simultaneously at different altars. Now the preference is for all priests to concelebrate together at the main altar when there are numerous priests present. I was just reading of the cathedral in Copenhagen where several priests will concelebrate along with the main daily Mass from the front pew. A visiting priest wasn't aware of their presence until after the Mass was over. Of course, the situation of "numerous priests present together" will continue to become less and less of a relevant issue.

8 posted on 10/01/2003 8:15:06 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Land of the Irish; sandyeggo; drstevej
How sad that is. If you guys really want to be Proddys, my church would love to have you........ (ducking) :-) Your fishiness, can we please move this "priest" up the Torquemada list?
10 posted on 10/01/2003 8:17:21 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: Land of the Irish
Sad, and all too often true.
11 posted on 10/01/2003 8:19:57 PM PDT by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: Land of the Irish
Once this has been done, the back altar can be removed, and the Presider's Chair will be placed on the back raised platform.

Throne?

Just a thought.
12 posted on 10/01/2003 8:26:03 PM PDT by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: Maximilian
Have you heard of this type of concelebration?

Church of the Holy Apostles
Anglican/Roman Catholic Congregation of Hampton Roads
1598 Lynnhaven Parkway
Virginia Beach, Virginia 23456-2008
(757)427-0963 Fax (757)427-9434


Co-Pastors
The Reverend Charles Faul/ The Reverend David Lassalle
Roman Catholic Church/ Episcopal Church
Diocese of Richmond/ Diocese of Southern Virginia

Established on All Saints Day, 1977, in Norfolk, Virginia, at the request of Bishop Walter Sullivan of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Richmond and Bishop David Rose of the Episcopal Diocese of Southern Virginia.

Services

Services are held each week at 10:00 a.m. There are two altars in the worship space. Roman Catholics are invited to receive from the Roman Catholic priest; all other Baptized Christians in good standing with their own church are invited to receive from the Episcopal priest.

http://www.us.net/sova/VirginiaBeach/HolyApostles/
13 posted on 10/01/2003 8:40:27 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Maximilian; Land of the Irish
So,does that mean it would be wrong to demand the side altars be removed from a Cathedral?
14 posted on 10/01/2003 8:43:12 PM PDT by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Land of the Irish
With regard to "Church of the Holy Apostles" in Virginia Beach - yes this has been an issue for several years! The problem on the Anglican side of the aisle is that his bishop thinks it's the neatest thing since sliced bread and therefore will take no action against him, even though this is a direct violation of our canon law. I believe it's also a direct violation of your canon law, but apparently your bishop thinks it's nifty too.
15 posted on 10/01/2003 8:47:15 PM PDT by ahadams2
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To: Maximilian
Perhaps these heretical priests have been visited upon us for our sins.

To what purpose?

What a weird, Old Testament (and fundamentally an-ecclesial) understanding of God's dealing with his people you offer! A God hungering for excuses to damn sinners and not to save them would be unworthy of worship.

Let's not blame God for the sins of men, shall we?

16 posted on 10/01/2003 9:00:34 PM PDT by Romulus
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"To what purpose?"

It's not necessary that we know.

"What a weird, Old Testament (and fundamentally an-ecclesial) understanding of God's dealing with his people you offer! A God hungering for excuses to damn sinners and not to save them would be unworthy of worship."

Just the opposite! Not "hungering for excuses," but polishing souls.

"Let's not blame God for the sins of men, shall we?"

I'm gob-smacked that you could interpret his post in that way.
17 posted on 10/01/2003 9:38:18 PM PDT by dsc
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To: third double; Land of the Irish; sitetest; ahadams2; Hermann the Cherusker; dsc
In the first sentence St. Charles Borremo Church is mentioned.

St. Charles Borremo himself ordered side altars be removed from a Cathedral. Dang modernist...

18 posted on 10/01/2003 9:52:41 PM PDT by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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Borromeo
19 posted on 10/01/2003 9:53:21 PM PDT by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Catholicguy
Give it up. Nobody took your bait about side altars. You grasp at straws.
20 posted on 10/01/2003 9:56:27 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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