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The Holy Face of Jesus Christ as appeared on the Holy Eucharist
Syro-Malankara Catholic Church ^ | 5-5-2001 | Fr. Johnson Karoor

Posted on 09/24/2003 6:27:37 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker

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To: Hermann the Cherusker; *Catholic_list; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; ...
Adoration Ping!

Please notify me via Freepmail if you would like to be added to or removed from the Adoration Ping list.

21 posted on 09/24/2003 10:48:08 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Polycarp; nickcarraway
I noticed the date is from two years ago. Is it still occurring?

This is a wonderful miracle, particularly for our times when so many no longer believe in the Real Presence.
22 posted on 09/24/2003 10:51:04 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
That would be soley your opinion.

Of course. I haven't presented it as anything other than my opinion.

23 posted on 09/24/2003 10:51:50 AM PDT by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; sitetest; Desdemona; dsc; GirlShortstop; Telit Likitis; Polycarp; .45MAN; ...
The three "dots" at the bottom of the exposed Host make it look its an image of the Sacred Heart. Does anyone else see what I'm talking about?


24 posted on 09/24/2003 10:51:57 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Ping post #24.
25 posted on 09/24/2003 10:52:42 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Pahuanui
There is a lot of evidence for what Christ looked like. There is a uniformity in icons from the early church depicting the face of Christ. The is the image seen from the Veronica. There is the image seen on the Shroud of Turin. The amazing thing is that all of these images are consistent in the details of the face they show.

Why does the shroud not have validity to your mind? If it is a forgery, it is one of the most amazing in history.

Why do you find it difficult to believe that the face of Jesus Christ, who we worship as God, would have been preserved and carried down through the centuries so that we may know it today?
26 posted on 09/24/2003 10:53:50 AM PDT by Flying Circus (When the foolish man sees the face of Christ he denies out loud.)
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To: Pahuanui
So why do you need to come on here and harass us on this thread?
27 posted on 09/24/2003 10:56:36 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Pyro7480
Very interesting observation. You might consider writing it to the diocese.
28 posted on 09/24/2003 10:57:54 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Pyro7480
The lower central dot is definitely shaped like the Sacred Heart. I don't know how the left and right dots figure into it.

There may be some other significance, such as the Trinity.
29 posted on 09/24/2003 10:59:03 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
So why do you need to come on here and harass us on this thread?

Why do you feel you've been 'harassed' when I've only asked some questions?

30 posted on 09/24/2003 11:00:00 AM PDT by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Pahuanui
"Why do you feel you've been 'harassed' when I've only asked some questions?"

Baloney. You started off by harassing us.

Look at your first abusive post.

Posted by Pahuanui to Hermann the Cherusker
On Religion 09/24/2003 9:44 AM PDT #12 of 30

How would they know?

No one knows what Christ looked like, so it might just as well be the face of, say, Agamemnon or some plummer in Reno named Floyd.





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If you want to ask questions, try starting off with a level of respect.
31 posted on 09/24/2003 11:03:29 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
The left and right dots look like the hands in the Icon that Pyro posted.
32 posted on 09/24/2003 11:04:04 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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In the original post, the photo to the right of the one you posted shows the middle object as being almost heart-shaped. Interesting observation!
33 posted on 09/24/2003 11:04:56 AM PDT by dansangel (*Visualize No Democrats*)
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Yeah, that's where I noticed it orignally. In the upper-right part of the "heart," you can see a slightly-lighter shaded area that looks like a flame.
34 posted on 09/24/2003 11:07:07 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Now I see it.
35 posted on 09/24/2003 11:08:04 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Flying Circus
There is a lot of evidence for what Christ looked like. There is a uniformity in icons from the early church depicting the face of Christ. The is the image seen from the Veronica.

That is only evidence of the uniformity of some of the images, and does not address their accuracy.

There is the image seen on the Shroud of Turin. The amazing thing is that all of these images are consistent in the details of the face they show.

Given the techniques at the time and the extremely limited number of artists, I find it not quite as amazing as perhaps you do.

Why does the shroud not have validity to your mind? If it is a forgery, it is one of the most amazing in history.

It is inconclusive as to who, if anyone, is represented by that image.

Why do you find it difficult to believe that the face of Jesus Christ, who we worship as God, would have been preserved and carried down through the centuries so that we may know it today?

See above.

36 posted on 09/24/2003 11:08:18 AM PDT by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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No one knows what Christ looked like

The shroud of Turin has a verya ccurate depiction of the face of Our Lord.

37 posted on 09/24/2003 11:12:00 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Baloney. You started off by harassing us.

Look at your first abusive post.

Posted by Pahuanui to Hermann the Cherusker On Religion 09/24/2003 9:44 AM PDT #12 of 30

How would they know?

No one knows what Christ looked like, so it might just as well be the face of, say, Agamemnon or some plummer in Reno named Floyd.

Abusive? You seem not to understand the meaning of the word, or are purposefully being over-sensitive to justify using it incorrectly.

If you want to ask questions, try starting off with a level of respect.

I am quite respectful, and have said nothing to denigrate your religion or you, for that matter.

I specifically used Agamemnon because he predated Christ and there are images of him that are equally as dubious as to whether they accurately represent his likeness. I chose a fictional character to further emphasize the lack of any concrete evidence for either of the other two individuals.

38 posted on 09/24/2003 11:15:57 AM PDT by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

The Divine Praises

Blessed be God.
Blessed be His Holy Name.
Blessed be Jesus Christ, true God and true man.
Blessed be the name of Jesus.
Blessed be His Most Sacred Heart.
Blessed be Jesus in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar.
Blessed be the Holy Spirit, the paraclete.
Blessed be the great Mother of God, Mary most holy.
Blessed be her holy and Immaculate Conception.
Blessed be her glorious Assumption.
Blessed be the name of Mary, Virgin and Mother.
Blessed be Saint Joseph, her most chaste spouse.
Blessed be God in His angels and in His Saints.

May the heart of Jesus, in the Most Blessed Sacrament, be praised, adored, and loved with grateful affection, at every moment, in all the tabernacles of the world, even to the end of time. Amen.

39 posted on 09/24/2003 11:17:36 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Pahuanui
I have no interest in discussion things with a dissimulator such as yourself. Go away and learn some manners.

Don't respond to me again.
40 posted on 09/24/2003 11:36:17 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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