[sinkspur]

Very well. I think we will be able to get along just fine without you.

Good. There are just two of you. Everybody else seems to be able to keep a civil tongue in their heads.

It's not "your" Church, Thorndike. You sound like a pre-Vatican II bishop.

[Thorondir]

It's not "your" Church, Thorndike.

Yes, it IS my Church. I am an active, struggling, baptized Roman Catholic. What, do you think the Methodist Church is my church?

It's MY Church.

And what's with messing with my nick? That's so childish, un-Christian and hateful. Is it supposed to sting me to the core? Here's an even better one that one of your "special ones" on the FR used to throw at me; Thorondick. Wow! That one was a real zinger. I used to cry on my pillow every time I saw it. You might try it out. Perhaps it will make you feel better.

You sound like a pre-Vatican II bishop.

Thank you. Now tell us what was wrong with the 2,000 years of bishops prior to VII. Was VII the true birth of the Church? If so, why was Jesus such a failure for 2,000 years?