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The Crucifix Scandal
Catholic Exchange ^ | 7/21/03 | Patty Bonds

Posted on 07/21/2003 10:44:35 AM PDT by el_chupacabra

The Crucifix Scandal 7/21/03

I was assisting in a history class one day shortly after my conversion. I was wearing a crucifix and the history teacher, who happened to be a Baptist, commented that crucifixes always bother her.

She asked me why we Catholics kept Jesus on the cross when he was risen from the dead. She expressed her offense at the sight of Jesus hanging there 2000 years after the fact.

Prompted, I believe, by the Holy Spirit, I broke into a chorus of an old hymn traditionally familiar to Baptists: Lest I forget Gethsemane , Lest I forget thine agony, Lest I forget thy love for me, Lead me to Calvary.She walked away with raised eye brows and a pensive nod.

Before I had given any thought to being Catholic I had decided I wanted a crucifix in my house. I had been plagued for too long by a pet sin that was draining the life out of me (more literally than I knew at the time) and I knew that part of the problem was that I took sin way too lightly. After all, being a Calvinist, I believed that I was one of the chosen few and that sin like this was only a temporary interruption in an indestructible relationship with Christ that began at the point of time I put faith in Him, and would not end until Christ himself had seen it to completion. I could not lose my salvation, so sin meant only a temporary loss of “fellowship” with Him.

Or so I thought.

I knew I needed to be constantly reminded of the price my Lord had paid for my salvation so that I would stop this presumptuous disregard for His will in my life. So I approached my (then) Baptist husband carefully and asked how he would feel if I got a small crucifix for the wall by my desk. He seemed unconcerned about it, especially in light of my motivation.

Little did I know that two years later there would hardly be a room in my house without one!

Recently my brother debated Patrick Madrid on the veneration of Saints and the use of images as an aid to prayer of devotion. The crucifix became a central feature of the debate. My whole being was shaken by the look of disgust my brother gave the beautiful crucifix that had been displayed earlier. How could anyone look with disgust on the most self-sacrificing act of love ever known? How could anyone loath the image of one’s Savior dying as a ransom for their soul? It was chilling.

As we read the lives of the Saints we find that many times victory over doubt or grace in suffering came as one of those precious Saints of God fixed their eyes on a crucifix. Converts have come home, myself included, because of the encounter with life-giving love that a crucifix represents

Could it be that the sight of the price paid for us makes some very uncomfortable? Could it be that as we look upon Christ giving his last drop of life for us we realize that we are called to the very same sacrificial life? Could it be that fixation on the resurrection, made “sanitary” by the omission of the crucifixion, allows us to believe we are called to live in painless power rather than in humility and sacrifice?

Should not the sight of the crucifix brings to the surface our regard for sin? Should it not be impossible to set our eyes on a crucifix and allow any sinful thought to linger in the same mind that is filled with that sight? Much like a recitation of the Ten Commandments, does not the sight of our sacrificial Lamb make us feel the pangs of every imperfect fiber of our beings?

In 1 Cor. Chapter 1, St. Paul tells us that “we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles. But to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and God’s weakness is stronger than human strength.” To those puffed up with the wisdom of this world, the sight of the Son of God hanging from a cross is a stumbling block, a sign of offense. But to those of us who are being saved, it is the power of God, the wisdom of God, the love of God. And since His strength is made perfect in weakness, the crucifix is the still life caricature of the triumph of Holy Love over selfish sin. Far from being the low point of Christ’s life and something to be or brushed aside or forgotten, the Crucifixion is the pinnacle of the Glory of God in Christ Jesus.

So it is with gratitude I wear this crucifix. It keeps my heart focused on the Lover of my soul, it keeps me submitted to the cross I must take up daily to follow Him, it reminds me how much he loves the rest of the world and how much he wants me to give to reach them.

Lest I forget . . . Lead me to Calvary .

Patty Bonds is a Catholic convert who lives and writes from Phoenix, Arizona . She is the founder of Mary's Mantle, an apostolate to serve Catholics who are experiencing family opposition to the faith. Her brother is James White, an anti-Catholic author and speaker.


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1 posted on 07/21/2003 10:44:35 AM PDT by el_chupacabra
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To: el_chupacabra
BUMP!
2 posted on 07/21/2003 10:49:04 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Land of the Irish; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; NYer; ...
I had a mormon friend tell me my Crucifix was "morbid" because it was like "wearing a knife around your neck to remind you that your son was stabbed to death."

(She felt that way about all crosses, not just those bearing the corpus)
3 posted on 07/21/2003 10:57:15 AM PDT by el_chupacabra (proofreading/previewing is for cowards!)
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To: el_chupacabra
Probably has something to do with idolatry.

Deuteronomy 5
6   I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
7   Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8   Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:

Exodus 20
2   I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3   Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4   Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Exodus 34:17
Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.


Isaiah 42
17   They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.

graven image from the Hebrew
6459
pecel peh'-sel from 6458; an idol:--carved (graven) image.
1) idol, image


6458 pacal paw-sal' a primitive root; to carve, whether wood or stone:--grave, hew.
1)
to cut, hew, hew into shape
a) (Qal) to hew, hew out, quarry


molten image from the Hebrew
4541
maccekah mas-say-kaw' from 5258; properly, a pouring over, i.e. fusion of metal (especially a cast image); by implication, a libation, i.e. league; concretely a coverlet (as if poured out):--covering, molten (image), vail.
1) a pouring, libation, molten metal, cast image, drink offering
a)
libation (with covenant sacrifice)
b)
molten metal, molten image, molten gods
2)
web, covering, veil, woven stuff

4 posted on 07/21/2003 11:16:10 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny) ( Luke 16:17 -- And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.)
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To: el_chupacabra
There is one thing of which demons are frightened: the Crucifix. Christ on the Crucifix, not an empty cross. Good enough for me.

Good post.

5 posted on 07/21/2003 11:26:00 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Fool.

"And you shall make two cherubim of gold [i.e., two gold statues of angels]; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece of the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be" (Ex. 25:18–20).

"Make [a statue of] a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it shall live. So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live" (Num. 21:8–9).

"[David gave Solomon the plan for the] golden chariot of the cherubim [statues of angels] that spread their wings and covered the ark of the covenant of the Lord. All this he made clear by the writing of the hand of the Lord concerning it all, all the work to be done according to the plan" (1 Chr. 28:18–19).

"On the [Temple] walls round about in the inner room and [on] the nave were carved likenesses of cherubim." (Ezekiel 41:17–18)

In the above verses, God Himself commands that graven images be made. Now either God and the Bible contradict themselves, or your interpretation of the Commandment against the making of images is wrong.

The answer, of course, is that your interpretation of the Commandment is wrong. God approves of the use of statuary, stained glass, ikons, and other graven images when they are used for their intended purpose: the glorification and adoration of God. God forbade the adoration of the statues themselves, and of the Canaanite "gods" the statues represented, not the making of graven images per se.
7 posted on 07/21/2003 11:53:44 AM PDT by Polycarp (Life's not like a box o choclates...it's like eatin jalapenos. What ya do now might burn ya tomorrow)
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To: Polycarp
Were people kneeling to the cherubs? Did they think the cherubs were god?

How many ways can Exodus 34:17 be interpreted?

Exodus 34:17
Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.

8 posted on 07/21/2003 12:02:26 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) ( Deuteronomy 32:37 -- And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,)
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To: el_chupacabra
Wonderful essay, thanks for finding and posting it.

I have a Fundamentalist Baptist friend who thinks Christ on the Crucifix is awful and an abomination. He cannot understand that Catholics do not worship images, but that they are a reminder, especially the Crucifix, of what Jesus Christ endured for our salvation. An empty cross is just that, empty. And a cross with a statue of the risen Christ is just not biblical (but very popular in a lot of churches, I notice).

I found it kind of ironic that this same man has a picure in his office of his little daughter kissing a cross with her eyes closed. The picture is beautiful but I'm reminded that for him, everything Catholics do is for the wrong reasons.

9 posted on 07/21/2003 12:14:06 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: el_chupacabra
Thank you for the post. Yesterday, I just happened to get a crucifix blessed for my youngest daughter.
10 posted on 07/21/2003 12:21:18 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Were people kneeling to the cherubs? Did they think the cherubs were god?

Catholics kneel before God, not "to" statues, regardless of what you may perceive. We also don't think the saints and/or their statues are gods. There is only one God in three persons - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

11 posted on 07/21/2003 12:25:08 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
How many ways can Exodus 34:17 be interpreted?

If you can't see the difference between worshipping a golden calf, and a Christian displaying a crucifix, don't blame Exodus for not being clear.

12 posted on 07/21/2003 12:25:45 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Were people kneeling to the cherubs? Did they think the cherubs were god?

Neither do Catholics think any kind of statuary are "gods." That exists only in the fevered and bigoted imaginations of anti-Catholics.

13 posted on 07/21/2003 12:27:19 PM PDT by Polycarp (Life's not like a box o choclates...it's like eatin jalapenos. What ya do now might burn ya tomorrow)
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To: Snuffington
If you can't see the difference between worshipping a golden calf, and a Christian displaying a crucifix, don't blame Exodus for not being clear.

But its so hard to refuse to be disabused of the notion that Catholics worship statues when you put it that way! That's not fair!

14 posted on 07/21/2003 12:30:16 PM PDT by Polycarp (Life's not like a box o choclates...it's like eatin jalapenos. What ya do now might burn ya tomorrow)
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To: el_chupacabra; american colleen; sinkspur; livius; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; ...
I knew I needed to be constantly reminded of the price my Lord had paid for my salvation so that I would stop this presumptuous disregard for His will in my life.

Patty Bonds has a deeper understanding of salvation than my parish priest. Like Patty's history teacher, my RC pastor often says that Christ was only on the cross for 3 hours but is risen forever. Unlike Patty, he does not want to be reminded of the price paid for his salvation.

THE HISTORY OF THE SAN DAMIANO CROSS

15 posted on 07/21/2003 12:39:37 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: el_chupacabra
read later
16 posted on 07/21/2003 12:53:03 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
There is one thing of which demons are frightened: the Crucifix. Christ on the Crucifix, not an empty cross. Good enough for me.

And you know this to be a fact how...?

17 posted on 07/21/2003 12:54:08 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: el_chupacabra
Two months ago, one of my nursing home patients noticed the 3 inch crucifix I wear at all time. He's an old Baptist, and exclaimed, "Why do you Catholics keep Christ on that cross?!?"

I responded that like Paul, "We preach only Christ, and Christ crucified."

He didn't say anything more.

18 posted on 07/21/2003 1:00:23 PM PDT by Polycarp (Life's not like a box o choclates...it's like eatin jalapenos. What ya do now might burn ya tomorrow)
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To: LiteKeeper
Exorcisms by Catholic and Orthodox priests. And by personal experience. Can't beat those personal spiritual experiences, can you?
19 posted on 07/21/2003 1:06:07 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: ET(end tyranny)
So why where graven images of things like Cherubom placed by order of God on the Ark of the Covenant and the Temple?
20 posted on 07/21/2003 1:09:32 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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