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The Didache - The Lord's Teaching Through the Twelve Apostles to the Nations.
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Posted on 06/18/2003 4:50:37 PM PDT by NYer

The Didache

The Lord's Teaching Through the Twelve Apostles to the Nations.

Chapter 1. The Two Ways and the First Commandment.

There are two ways, one of life and one of death, but a great difference between the two ways. The way of life, then, is this: First, you shall love God who made you; second, love your neighbor as yourself, and do not do to another what you would not want done to you. And of these sayings the teaching is this: Bless those who curse you, and pray for your enemies, and fast for those who persecute you. For what reward is there for loving those who love you? Do not the Gentiles do the same? But love those who hate you, and you shall not have an enemy. Abstain from fleshly and worldly lusts. If someone strikes your right cheek, turn to him the other also, and you shall be perfect. If someone impresses you for one mile, go with him two. If someone takes your cloak, give him also your coat. If someone takes from you what is yours, ask it not back, for indeed you are not able. Give to every one who asks you, and ask it not back; for the Father wills that to all should be given of our own blessings (free gifts). Happy is he who gives according to the commandment, for he is guiltless. Woe to him who receives; for if one receives who has need, he is guiltless; but he who receives not having need shall pay the penalty, why he received and for what. And coming into confinement, he shall be examined concerning the things which he has done, and he shall not escape from there until he pays back the last penny. And also concerning this, it has been said, Let your alms sweat in your hands, until you know to whom you should give.

Chapter 2. The Second Commandment: Grave Sin Forbidden.

And the second commandment of the Teaching; You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit pederasty, you shall not commit fornication, you shall not steal, you shall not practice magic, you shall not practice , you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born. You shall not covet the things of your neighbor, you shall not swear, you shall not bear false witness, you shall not speak evil, you shall bear no grudge. You shall not be double-minded nor double-tongued, for to be double-tongued is a snare of death. Your speech shall not be false, nor empty, but fulfilled by deed. You shall not be covetous, nor rapacious, nor a hypocrite, nor evil disposed, nor haughty. You shall not take evil counsel against your neighbor. You shall not hate any man; but some you shall reprove, and concerning some you shall pray, and some you shall love more than your own life.

Chapter 3. Other Sins Forbidden.

My child, flee from every evil thing, and from every likeness of it. Be not prone to anger, for anger leads to murder. Be neither jealous, nor quarrelsome, nor of hot temper, for out of all these murders are engendered. My child, be not a lustful one. for lust leads to fornication. Be neither a filthy talker, nor of lofty eye, for out of all these adulteries are engendered. My child, be not an observer of omens, since it leads to idolatry. Be neither an enchanter, nor an astrologer, nor a purifier, nor be willing to took at these things, for out of all these idolatry is engendered. My child, be not a liar, since a lie leads to theft. Be neither money-loving, nor vainglorious, for out of all these thefts are engendered. My child, be not a murmurer, since it leads the way to blasphemy. Be neither self-willed nor evil-minded, for out of all these blasphemies are engendered.

Rather, be meek, since the meek shall inherit the earth. Be long-suffering and pitiful and guileless and gentle and good and always trembling at the words which you have heard. You shall not exalt yourself, nor give over-confidence to your soul. Your soul shall not be joined with lofty ones, but with just and lowly ones shall it have its intercourse. Accept whatever happens to you as good, knowing that apart from God nothing comes to pass.

Chapter 4. Various Precepts.

My child, remember night and day him who speaks the word of God to you, and honor him as you do the Lord. For wherever the lordly rule is uttered, there is the Lord. And seek out day by day the faces of the saints, in order that you may rest upon their words. Do not long for division, but rather bring those who contend to peace. Judge righteously, and do not respect persons in reproving for transgressions. You shall not be undecided whether or not it shall be. Be not a stretcher forth of the hands to receive and a drawer of them back to give. If you have anything, through your hands you shall give ransom for your sins. Do not hesitate to give, nor complain when you give; for you shall know who is the good repayer of the hire. Do not turn away from him who is in want; rather, share all things with your brother, and do not say that they are your own. For if you are partakers in that which is immortal, how much more in things which are mortal? Do not remove your hand from your son or daughter; rather, teach them the fear of God from their youth. Do not enjoin anything in your bitterness upon your bondman or maidservant, who hope in the same God, lest ever they shall fear not God who is over both; for he comes not to call according to the outward appearance, but to them whom the Spirit has prepared. And you bondmen shall be subject to your masters as to a type of God, in modesty and fear. You shall hate all hypocrisy and everything which is not pleasing to the Lord. Do not in any way forsake the commandments of the Lord; but keep what you have received, neither adding thereto nor taking away therefrom. In the church you shall acknowledge your transgressions, and you shall not come near for your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life.

Chapter 5. The Way of Death.

And the way of death is this: First of all it is evil and accursed: murders, adultery, lust, fornication, thefts, idolatries, magic arts, witchcrafts, rape, false witness, hypocrisy, double-heartedness, deceit, haughtiness, depravity, self-will, greediness, filthy talking, jealousy, over-confidence, loftiness, boastfulness; persecutors of the good, hating truth, loving a lie, not knowing a reward for righteousness, not cleaving to good nor to righteous judgment, watching not for that which is good, but for that which is evil; from whom meekness and endurance are far, loving vanities, pursuing revenge, not pitying a poor man, not laboring for the afflicted, not knowing Him Who made them, murderers of children, destroyers of the handiwork of God, turning away from him who is in want, afflicting him who is distressed, advocates of the rich, lawless judges of the poor, utter sinners. Be delivered, children, from all these.

Chapter 6. Against False Teachers, and Food Offered to Idols.

See that no one causes you to err from this way of the Teaching, since apart from God it teaches you. For if you are able to bear the entire yoke of the Lord, you will be perfect; but if you are not able to do this, do what you are able. And concerning food, bear what you are able; but against that which is sacrificed to idols be exceedingly careful; for it is the service of dead gods.

Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism.

And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.

Chapter 8. Fasting and Prayer (the Lord's Prayer).

But let not your fasts be with the hypocrites, for they fast on the second and fifth day of the week. Rather, fast on the fourth day and the Preparation (Friday). Do not pray like the hypocrites, but rather as the Lord commanded in His Gospel, like this:

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily (needful) bread, and forgive us our debt as we also forgive our debtors. And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one (or, evil); for Thine is the power and the glory for ever..

Pray this three times each day.

Chapter 9. The Eucharist.

Now concerning the Eucharist, give thanks this way. First, concerning the cup:

We thank thee, our Father, for the holy vine of David Thy servant, which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever..

And concerning the broken bread:

We thank Thee, our Father, for the life and knowledge which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Even as this broken bread was scattered over the hills, and was gathered together and became one, so let Thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into Thy kingdom; for Thine is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ for ever..

But let no one eat or drink of your Eucharist, unless they have been baptized into the name of the Lord; for concerning this also the Lord has said, "Give not that which is holy to the dogs."

Chapter 10. Prayer after Communion.

But after you are filled, give thanks this way:

We thank Thee, holy Father, for Thy holy name which You didst cause to tabernacle in our hearts, and for the knowledge and faith and immortality, which You modest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Thou, Master almighty, didst create all things for Thy name's sake; You gavest food and drink to men for enjoyment, that they might give thanks to Thee; but to us You didst freely give spiritual food and drink and life eternal through Thy Servant. Before all things we thank Thee that You are mighty; to Thee be the glory for ever. Remember, Lord, Thy Church, to deliver it from all evil and to make it perfect in Thy love, and gather it from the four winds, sanctified for Thy kingdom which Thou have prepared for it; for Thine is the power and the glory for ever. Let grace come, and let this world pass away. Hosanna to the God (Son) of David! If any one is holy, let him come; if any one is not so, let him repent. Maranatha. Amen..

But permit the prophets to make Thanksgiving as much as they desire.

Chapter 11. Concerning Teachers, Apostles, and Prophets.

Whosoever, therefore, comes and teaches you all these things that have been said before, receive him. But if the teacher himself turns and teaches another doctrine to the destruction of this, hear him not. But if he teaches so as to increase righteousness and the knowledge of the Lord, receive him as the Lord. But concerning the apostles and prophets, act according to the decree of the Gospel. Let every apostle who comes to you be received as the Lord. But he shall not remain more than one day; or two days, if there's a need. But if he remains three days, he is a false prophet. And when the apostle goes away, let him take nothing but bread until he lodges. If he asks for money, he is a false prophet. And every prophet who speaks in the Spirit you shall neither try nor judge; for every sin shall be forgiven, but this sin shall not be forgiven. But not every one who speaks in the Spirit is a prophet; but only if he holds the ways of the Lord. Therefore from their ways shall the false prophet and the prophet be known. And every prophet who orders a meal in the Spirit does not eat it, unless he is indeed a false prophet. And every prophet who teaches the truth, but does not do what he teaches, is a false prophet. And every prophet, proved true, working unto the mystery of the Church in the world, yet not teaching others to do what he himself does, shall not be judged among you, for with God he has his judgment; for so did also the ancient prophets. But whoever says in the Spirit, Give me money, or something else, you shall not listen to him. But if he tells you to give for others' sake who are in need, let no one judge him.

Chapter 12. Reception of Christians.

But receive everyone who comes in the name of the Lord, and prove and know him afterward; for you shall have understanding right and left. If he who comes is a wayfarer, assist him as far as you are able; but he shall not remain with you more than two or three days, if need be. But if he wants to stay with you, and is an artisan, let him work and eat. But if he has no trade, according to your understanding, see to it that, as a Christian, he shall not live with you idle. But if he wills not to do, he is a Christ-monger. Watch that you keep away from such.

Chapter 13. Support of Prophets.

But every true prophet who wants to live among you is worthy of his support. So also a true teacher is himself worthy, as the workman, of his support. Every first-fruit, therefore, of the products of wine-press and threshing-floor, of oxen and of sheep, you shall take and give to the prophets, for they are your high priests. But if you have no prophet, give it to the poor. If you make a batch of dough, take the first-fruit and give according to the commandment. So also when you open a jar of wine or of oil, take the first-fruit and give it to the prophets; and of money (silver) and clothing and every possession, take the first-fruit, as it may seem good to you, and give according to the commandment.

Chapter 14. Christian Assembly on the Lord's Day.

But every Lord's day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned. For this is that which was spoken by the Lord: "In every place and time offer to me a pure sacrifice; for I am a great King, says the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the nations."

Chapter 15. Bishops and Deacons; Christian Reproof.

Appoint, therefore, for yourselves, bishops and deacons worthy of the Lord, men meek, and not lovers of money, and truthful and proved; for they also render to you the service of prophets and teachers. Therefore do not despise them, for they are your honored ones, together with the prophets and teachers. And reprove one another, not in anger, but in peace, as you have it in the Gospel. But to anyone that acts amiss against another, let no one speak, nor let him hear anything from you until he repents. But your prayers and alms and all your deeds so do, as you have it in the Gospel of our Lord.

Chapter 16. Watchfulness; the Coming of the Lord.

Watch for your life's sake. Let not your lamps be quenched, nor your loins unloosed; but be ready, for you know not the hour in which our Lord will come. But come together often, seeking the things which are befitting to your souls: for the whole time of your faith will not profit you, if you are not made perfect in the last time. For in the last days false prophets and corrupters shall be multiplied, and the sheep shall be turned into wolves, and love shall be turned into hate; for when lawlessness increases, they shall hate and persecute and betray one another, and then shall appear the world-deceiver as Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders, and the earth shall be delivered into his hands, and he shall do iniquitous things which have never yet come to pass since the beginning. Then shall the creation of men come into the fire of trial, and many shall be made to stumble and shall perish; but those who endure in their faith shall be saved from under the curse itself. And then shall appear the signs of the truth: first, the sign of an outspreading in heaven, then the sign of the sound of the trumpet. And third, the resurrection of the dead -- yet not of all, but as it is said: "The Lord shall come and all His saints with Him." Then shall the world see the Lord coming upon the clouds of heaven.


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Didache

(DOCTRINE OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES)

A short treatise which was accounted by some of the Fathers as next to Holy Scripture. It was rediscovered in 1883 by Bryennios, Greek Orthodox metropolitan of Nicomedia, in the codex from which, in 1875, he had published the full text of the Epistles of St. Clement. The title in the MS. is Didache kyriou dia ton dodeka apostolon ethesin, but before this it gives the heading Didache ton dodeka apostolon. The old Latin translation of cc. i-v, found by Dr. J. Schlecht in 1900, has the longer title, omitting "twelve", and has a rubric De doctrinâ Apostolorum. For convenience the contents may be divided into three parts: the first is the "Two Ways", the Way of Life and the Way of Death; the second part is a rituale dealing with baptism, fasting, and Holy Communion; the third speaks of the ministry. Doctrinal teaching is presupposed, and none is imparted.

The Didache is mentioned by Eusebius after the books of Scripture (H. E., III, xxv, 4): "Let there be placed among the spuria the writing of the Acts of Paul, the so-called Shepherd and the Apocalypse of Peter, and besides these the Epistle known as that of Barnabas, and what are called the Teachings of the Apostles, and also . . . the Apocalypse of John, if this be thought fit . . ." St. Athanasius and Rufinus add the "Teaching" to the sapiential and other deutero-canonical books. (Rufinus gives the curious alternative title "Judicium Petri".) It has a similar place in the lists of Nicephorus, Pseudo-Anastasius, and Pseudo-Athanasius (Synopsis). The Pseudo Cyprianic "Adversus Aleatores" quotes it by name. Unacknowledged citations are very common, if less certain. The "Two Ways" appears in Barnabas, cc. xviii-xx, sometimes word for word, sometimes added to, dislocated, or abridged, and Barn., iv, 9 is from Didache, xvi, 2-3, or vice versa. Hermas, Irenæus, Clement of Alexandria, and Origen seem to use the work, and so in the West do Optatus and the "Gesta apud Zenophilum". The Didascalia Apostolorum (q. v.) are founded upon the Didache. The Apostolic church ordinance has used a part, the Apostolic Constitutions have embodied the Didascalia. There are echoes in Justin, Tatian, Theophilus, Cyprian, and Lactantius.

1 posted on 06/18/2003 4:50:37 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
But let not your fasts be with the hypocrites, for they fast on the second and fifth day of the week. Rather, fast on the fourth day and the Preparation (Friday).

If you have ever wondered, this is the first century reference for meatless Fridays! Saturday replaced Wednesday as a day of fast in the Western Church around AD 00, and abstinence without fast was generally observed on all Fridays and Saturdays throughout the year until the 19th century when the bishops of the US obtained from Rome a dispensation from the Saturday abstinence.

2 posted on 06/18/2003 4:58:49 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
My grandmother (from Italy) always fasted on Wed. and Fri.
3 posted on 06/18/2003 5:02:29 PM PDT by Litany (The Truth shall set you free.)
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To: NYer

We thank Thee, our Father, for the life and knowledge which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Even as this broken bread was scattered over the hills, and was gathered together and became one, so let Thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into Thy kingdom; for Thine is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ for ever..

4 posted on 06/18/2003 5:04:52 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: Litany
My grandmother (from Italy) always fasted on Wed. and Fri.

And now you know why!! LOL!

What part of Italy was your grandmother from? My ex-husband's family is from the Province of Molise. They had VERY "hebraic" habits. For example, when a member of the family died, that person was buried within 24 hours, the family did not cook but sat around the dining room on little stools while neighbors brought them food, they covered the mirrors in the house, the men did not shave for 7 days ... no need to continue, you get the picture. They were all baptized catholics.

My manager at the time was a Jewish convert to the Mormon church. He explained that during the crusades, it was not unusual for European Jews to "hide" under the mantle of the accepted faith. They retained their traditions inside the home but, for all intents and purposes, displayed catholic postures and in public. My husband vociferously denied being a Jew but ... hey ... actions speak louder than words! Not one member of his family ever attended church, except for a marriage or funeral ... and, even then!

5 posted on 06/18/2003 6:36:13 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
My grandparents were from Calabria....very Catholic and very old world. A real Italian Catholic funeral is 3 days of crying, screaming, and eating, .....I could write a book!
6 posted on 06/18/2003 6:59:36 PM PDT by Litany (The Truth shall set you free.)
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To: NYer
Wonder no more, eh, NYer?

A shame that something instituted by the Apostles was cast off so cavilerly. As usual, it is the Bishops, and not the laity, clamoring to do away with Holy Tradition.

7 posted on 06/18/2003 7:32:45 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: NYer
They had VERY "hebraic" habits. For example, when a member of the family died, that person was buried within 24 hours, the family did not cook but sat around the dining room on little stools while neighbors brought them food, they covered the mirrors in the house, the men did not shave for 7 days ... no need to continue, you get the picture. They were all baptized catholics.

My manager at the time was a Jewish convert to the Mormon church. He explained that during the crusades, it was not unusual for European Jews to "hide" under the mantle of the accepted faith. They retained their traditions inside the home but, for all intents and purposes, displayed catholic postures and in public. My husband vociferously denied being a Jew but ... hey ... actions speak louder than words! Not one member of his family ever attended church, except for a marriage or funeral ... and, even then!

This was very common in Italy in the cities and towns. What was your ex's last name? Generally, Italians with names including the name of a city, like Napolitano, are descended from Marrano Jews from Spain or Italy. Sometimes, entires cities were populated mostly by people like this, such as Livorno. In general, the towns and cities of Italy are populated by a mixed multitude. If you are looking for pure Romans and Italian Celts and Italian Greeks, look to people from the countryside and villages of Lazio, Tuscany, Umbira, & Abruzzi; Piedmont, Venice, Lombardy and Emiliga Romagna; and Calabria, Puglia, and Sicily respectively. My wife's family is from high up in the Appenines south of Parma. They could easily be mistaken for people from Switzerland or France.

8 posted on 06/18/2003 7:47:12 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: NYer
BUMP! Every Catholic needs to be read the Didache!
9 posted on 06/18/2003 9:56:53 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld,Rice 2004)
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To: NYer
read later
10 posted on 06/18/2003 10:06:15 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; Litany
Litany, your family came from an area close to where my Mom and her family emigrated from, Puglia.

Hermann, you are right. My Nonna's maiden name and her mother's maiden name indicate Greek origins.

11 posted on 06/18/2003 10:45:55 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: NYer; Hermann the Cherusker; Litany; Lady In Blue
Didache bump.

Chapter 8. Fasting and Prayer (the Lord's Prayer).

But let not your fasts be with the hypocrites, for they fast on the second and fifth day of the week. Rather, fast on the fourth day and the Preparation (Friday). Do not pray like the hypocrites, but rather as the Lord commanded in His Gospel, like this:

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily (needful) bread, and forgive us our debt as we also forgive our debtors. And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one (or, evil); for Thine is the power and the glory for ever..

Pray this three times each day.

This part spawned a question for me. Before Vatican II, religious would pray seven times a day, as recommended in the Old Testament. The "reform" of the Breviary after Vatican II has reduced prayer times to three times a day. Two of these times, morning and evening prayer, have the Our Father in them. If one goes to Mass daily, as religious are supposed to do, one would say the Our Father at least three times a day. This would fulfill the Didache's doctrine of prayer.

12 posted on 06/19/2003 7:09:06 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Hermann the Cherusker; Litany
My wife's family is from high up in the Appenines south of Parma. They could easily be mistaken for people from Switzerland or France.

Many Sicilians have fair skin and red hair. They are descended from the Normans. My ex's family is from a small hilltown in Molise. Their native dialect derives from Etruscan.

BTW - Parma is considered the seat of the Italian language. I once met a woman there who spoke high Italian. It was "lyrical" and truly beautiful.

13 posted on 06/19/2003 10:27:15 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
Many Sicilians have fair skin and red hair. They are descended from the Normans.

You could be describing me. Of course, my mom's family is Norman, from Normandy, and then Gloucestershire, with a healthy recent admixture of Norwegian to keep the bloodline up.

BTW - Parma is considered the seat of the Italian language. I once met a woman there who spoke high Italian. It was "lyrical" and truly beautiful.

I'm sure she was truly beuatiful too, if the standards of that region hold. My wife's father is over 60, but doesn't look older than 50. Her uncle and aunt are over 70, but they don't even look 60 yet.

14 posted on 06/19/2003 10:59:38 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Pyro7480
The prayer three times a day now is supposed to be the Angelus and its conjoined prayers, followed by meal time grace with the Our Father. The tradition I learned was the Angelus, and three Glorias, said morning, noon, and evening. Then grace, with the Our Father coming before the prayer "Bless us O Lord ..." and after the prayer "We give thee thanks ..." at the end.
15 posted on 06/19/2003 11:07:15 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Why was this changed? If one is faithful to the tradition, the Our Father would still formally be said 3 times. I actually try to say the Angelus three times a day myself. It's part of my ongoing process of better incorporating prayer into my life.
16 posted on 06/19/2003 11:09:50 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
As usual, it is the Bishops, and not the laity, clamoring to do away with Holy Tradition.

Remarkably, many catholics have now decided to personally reinstate these practices in their personal lives. And, frankly, I feel that carries far more weight with our Lord. It is now a "chosen" sacrifice as opposed to one that is imposed.

17 posted on 06/19/2003 12:49:03 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
The only problem I saw with the old discipline was that it was not liveds as a sacrifice, and people were always looking for ways around it. People simply had their "Fish Frys". Unless you hated Fish (like I do), it was no big burden to skip out on meatloaf or pork chops or hamburgers on Fridays.
18 posted on 06/19/2003 1:06:33 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Pyro7480
It wasn't changed, it was "enhanced" to enrich the laity's prayer life.
19 posted on 06/19/2003 1:07:25 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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