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Report: Keating to Leave Catholic Panel
Yahoo News ^ | June 15, 2003

Posted on 06/15/2003 4:40:16 PM PDT by NYer

LOS ANGELES - The former Oklahoma governor who was appointed to lead a panel examining the priest sex abuse scandal plans to resign, just days after his comparison of some Catholic bishops to the Mafia sparked a wave of criticism from church leaders, according to a published report.

 

Former Oklahoma Frank Keating plans to resign as head of the church's National Review Board this week, before the bishops' semiannual meeting, Keating's spokesman, Dan Mahoney, said in Sunday's Los Angeles Times.

Mahoney conceded that the timing was "awkward," but portrayed it as a planned departure after a year on the job, according to the Times.

Messages left by The Associated Press at the Mahoney's Washington, D.C. office were not immediately returned Sunday.

A spokesman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Monsignor Francis Maniscalco, said Sunday that he had no knowledge of a plan by Keating to resign any time soon. Tod Tamberg, a spokesman for Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony, also said Sunday that he had not heard of any plan for Keating to resign.

The report follows on the heals of an interview in the Times in which Keating said a number of unnamed church officials have "clay feet."

"To act like La Cosa Nostra and hide and suppress, I think, is very unhealthy. Eventually it will all come out," Keating said.

Cardinal Mahony, who Keating accused of listening "too much to his lawyer and not enough to his heart," issued a sharp rebuke Friday, calling the comments "the last straw" and saying he would ask other bishops to consider calling for Keating to step down during their meeting this week.

Keating's spokesman told the Times the former governor stands behind his remarks. "He uses strong language to make a point. He tells the truth, and apparently some people don't want to hear the truth," Mahoney said.

David Clohessy, national director of the nationwide victims support group Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, said Keating's resignation would leave victims and lay Catholics "terribly disillusioned."

"It's very disturbing that a couple of candid remarks are apparently so upsetting to the bishops," Clohessy told the AP from Indianapolis, Ind.

"Here's a devout, conscientious, Catholic lay person who volunteered his time and essentially his reputation to get the bishops out of trouble, and he's suddenly forced out," he said.

Since the Keating interview appeared Thursday, a majority of members of the 13-member oversight panel privately have called on the former FBI (news - web sites) agent and federal prosecutor to quit, the Times reported. Its members are all prominent lay Catholics.

Others support Keating: Ray H. Siegfried II, a Tulsa, Okla. businessman, told the Times that Keating "has nothing but the future of our children, your children and the church in mind."

"In this very critical time in our church, we need everybody to speak their mind and the truth of what they think is on their mind," Siegfried said.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops appointed the board last year to survey all 195 U.S. dioceses and determine how many priests had been accused of sexual abuse, in response to a national scandal and a need to reassure the faithful. Keating was appointed to head the panel by the conference president, Bishop Wilton Gregory of Belleville, Ill. Calls to Gregory's spokesmen were not immediately returned Sunday.

The study, which may be completed by the end of summer, will provide information that will be used for a second, larger study of the causes and context of the abuse problem.

Mahony and bishops representing California dioceses initially refused to take part, arguing it was too badly flawed to be accurate and might violate California privacy laws.

Keating's resignation should come in the next few days, before the bishops gather in St. Louis for their semiannual national conference, his spokesman told the Times. During the meeting, they are scheduled to review their year-old policies against sexual abuse.


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; keating; mahony; sexscandal
Former Oklahoma Frank Keating plans to resign as head of the church's National Review Board this week, before the bishops' semiannual meeting, Keating's spokesman, Dan Mahoney, said in Sunday's Los Angeles Times.
1 posted on 06/15/2003 4:40:17 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Cardinal Mahony, who Keating accused of listening "too much to his lawyer and not enough to his heart," issued a sharp rebuke Friday, calling the comments "the last straw" and saying he would ask other bishops to consider calling for Keating to step down during their meeting this week.

Keating's spokesman told the Times the former governor stands behind his remarks. "He uses strong language to make a point. He tells the truth, and apparently some people don't want to hear the truth," Mahoney said.

Interesting ... (Cardinal) Mahony and (Keating spokesman) Mahoney. Is this now the battle of the Mahon(e)y's?

May 26, 2003.  New!  The problem with Roger Mahony is that he is a shameless fraud.  Yesterday he dedicated a side altar to the abuse victims at his new cathedral.  Of course he did not want anything as messy as any victims around, so he and Tod Tamberg did not tell them or invite any victims. But Cardinal Mahony did invite all of the news media so they could all photograph him praying for the victims at his new little altar.  But it is all a fraud.

Cardinal Roger Mahony No Morals and No Ethics - Confirmed Again.

2 posted on 06/15/2003 4:59:34 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
We here in Oklahoma have been through this kind of thing with Keating for years. He's well-intentioned, but embarassing. Sometimes he makes ill-judged statements that have a certain truth to them - as in the current case, or when he said the Tulsa Public Schools were a total failure and the administrators were a fraud.

On the other hand, sometimes he's just a dope, as in the case when he told the First District voters that we were "stupid" not to vote for his wife in the Republican primary. (We have an excellent Republican congressman now, Mr. Sullivan.)

And I would hesitate to characterize Keating as a "devout and conscientious" Catholic. I'd want his (and hers) stands on Humanae Vitae to be on record. The fact that I can't say for sure, after seven years in the state, suggests that there's been a "politic" silence on this issue from the Keatings - which is quite atypical for the ex-Gov.
3 posted on 06/15/2003 5:11:59 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Visualize whirled peas ... It sure beats the alternative!)
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To: NYer
An excellent blog with lots of stuff on Mahony. Why is he still around?
4 posted on 06/15/2003 5:13:40 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
As much as I would like to see Mahony exposed (no, not what you're thinking), Keating put his foot in his mouth.
5 posted on 06/15/2003 5:15:22 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
"Keating put his foot in his mouth."

Too bad
Keating didn't put his foot up his eminence's ass.
6 posted on 06/15/2003 7:04:19 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: John Beresford Tipton
Too bad Keating didn't put his foot up his eminence's ass.

Not to be too graphic, but I doubt any halfway self respecting human would want to put ANY part of their body up that oraface. Only the Good Lord knows what's gone there before. And the rest of us would rather remain blissfully ignorant on that score.
7 posted on 06/15/2003 7:15:12 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
LOL, ou've given new force to the current saying:
"Let's not go there!"
8 posted on 06/15/2003 7:16:40 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: NYer
The report follows on the heals of an interview in the Times in which Keating said a number of unnamed church officials have "clay feet." "To act like La Cosa Nostra and hide and suppress, I think, is very unhealthy. Eventually it will all come out," Keating said.
Truth has a force of its own, Cardinal Mahooey.
9 posted on 06/16/2003 9:36:48 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Tax-chick
And I would hesitate to characterize Keating as a "devout and conscientious" Catholic. I'd want his (and hers) stands on Humanae Vitae to be on record.

Why? WHat does Humanae Vitae to do with the governance of the state of Oklahoma? He would likely have no occasion to ever reveal his sentiments on Humanae Vitae in his official duties, so one should give him the benefit of the doubt.

Sometimes he makes ill-judged statements that have a certain truth to them - as in the current case,

The statement is right on target and he should have been even more forceful.

The bishops hire Keating to do a job, then lie and stonewall trying to prevent him from doing it.

What would you call that kind of behavior?

10 posted on 06/16/2003 10:17:58 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Humanae Vitae Is what divides Catholics. It would be interesting to know not only how Keating feels about the issuea of contraception and abortion but the rest of the board.
11 posted on 06/16/2003 10:31:36 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: sinkspur
The bishops hire Keating to do a job, then lie and stonewall trying to prevent him from doing it. What would you call that kind of behavior?
Pompous clericalism.
12 posted on 06/16/2003 10:34:20 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: RobbyS
Humanae Vitae Is what divides Catholics.

Actually, it doesn't. 80% of American Catholics don't follow it, so I'm not sure how divisive it is. They should follow it, but when's the last time you ever heard a priest or bishop say they should?

It would be interesting to know not only how Keating feels about the issuea of contraception and abortion but the rest of the board.

If the board were dealing with issues of contraception, it would be interesting.

As it is, all that concerns most Catholics is that the board be allowed to do what the bishops asked them do without bishops stonewalling and lying.

13 posted on 06/16/2003 10:36:43 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
If you don't think that Humanae Vitae divided the Church, you haven't been paying attention. Rejection of it is the basis for acceptance of abortion or at least of the radical abortion law of the United States. Judge Noonan, with careful reasoning, tried to separate the two issues in his scholarly work "Contraception." but when many Catholics rejected the Church's teaching on the one, they rejected or at least became indifferent to the teaching on the other. So I would like to know what the opinion of the board memembers is on abortion law? Like Panetta? And (probably) Mahoney?
14 posted on 06/16/2003 10:58:40 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: sinkspur
WHat does Humanae Vitae to do with the governance of the state of Oklahoma?

Not a whole lot. However, public figures often comment on issues facing families in the state, and contraception is certainly a major issue. It's also a major cost for public health departments. If Keating had ever brought up the issue of whether the public should be paying for drugs, devices and procedures which are both morally wrong and medically harmful, I'm sure it would have caused a great FLUFF in the media.

He might also, easily, have mentioned the harm to marriage caused by contraception, and the benefits of NFP, in the context of his well-publicised efforts to promote marriage and reduce divorce in the state.

The fact that he did not, I consider suggestive, though of course not conclusive, as I stated above.

And while his beliefs have only a peripheral relevance to his job as governor, I consider them very relevant to his role on the sexual-abuse panel. The problem is the rejection of chastity. If Mr. Keating is involved in "prosecuting" certain violations of chastity, while supporting other unchaste behaviors, then he is not, as the article stated, a "devout and conscientious Catholic." He is simply a secular figure. If he's presented as such, fine; but during his years as governor, his Catholicism seemed awfully like window-dressing, frankly.

15 posted on 06/16/2003 3:51:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Visualize whirled peas ... It sure beats the alternative!)
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To: sinkspur
They should follow it, but when's the last time you ever heard a priest or bishop say they should?

Yesterday! MY pastor has guts.

16 posted on 06/16/2003 3:53:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Visualize whirled peas ... It sure beats the alternative!)
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To: Tax-chick
If he's presented as such, fine; but during his years as governor, his Catholicism seemed awfully like window-dressing, frankly.

Well, he was your governor, and you have your perspective.

I always saw him as a stand-up guy, moral, and willing to take tough stances.

His resignation letter, BTW, states that he will NOT apologize for any of his rhetoric.

There will continue to be clashes between the bishops and the lay review board and anybody who's worth a damn will leave in disgust.

17 posted on 06/16/2003 4:46:46 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
No, he never apologized for any of his rhetoric ... that was one reason we elected him governor until the term limits hit! He was much better than our current gov, brilliantly described by one FReeper as "slimy, and a real goon."

And I don't disagree with what he said about the Bishops, either, only with some of the descriptions in the article.
18 posted on 06/16/2003 6:10:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Visualize whirled peas ... It sure beats the alternative!)
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To: John Beresford Tipton
You got it right!
19 posted on 06/16/2003 6:29:43 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Tax-chick
We here in Oklahoma have been through this kind of thing with Keating for years. He's well-intentioned, but embarassing. Sometimes he makes ill-judged statements that have a certain truth to them - as in the current case, or when he said the Tulsa Public Schools were a total failure and the administrators were a fraud.

Sometimes the truth is embarassing, and while Keating may lack a bit in the area of tact, it seems one cannot reaaly dispute the truth of his comments. In this at least, I have much in common with Keating.

20 posted on 06/16/2003 6:45:00 PM PDT by connectthedots
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