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To: P-Marlowe
Col.1

[18] And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Eph.1

[22] And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
[23] Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

His church is and always will be perfect.

Man might not always do the Fathers will. We are members of the church but not the head of the church.

Christ is perfect and he is the one that established (i.e. built the Church). It is perfect.


36 posted on 05/22/2003 1:35:11 AM PDT by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
Christ is perfect and he is the one that established (i.e. built the Church). It is perfect.

You have a big problem here PF. If the church is perfect, then "that which is perfect" was already present on the earth and there was no need for the spiritual gifts in 55 AD when Paul penned the letter. So what was Paul talking about? By your own admission "that which is perfect" is Christ. And if it was yet to come, then clearly it refers to Christ's visible second coming. If it referred to the Church, it was already there.

This whole argument regarding Chapter 13 was clearly made out of whole cloth as an excuse for those who wish to deny the continued use of spiritual gifts. The burden is on those who deny the perpeturity of spiritual gifts to show exactly when they ceased. Are you one of those "70 AD return" people? If not, then you've got a problem.

40 posted on 05/22/2003 5:42:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Psalm 150 to the Max! Crank up the volume and Praise the Lord!)
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