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To: ET(end tyranny)
" That is why Jesus' mission failed. That is why the kingdom has been delayed. That's why Jesus started talking about how he had to suffer and die, because he realized that he had failed. "

You would think God would've planned this out a little better before he went looking for a virgin. I hope he gets his timing right next time around.

" Luke 17:21 21 nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you." (NIV) "

The Kingdom has definitely been delayed in you.

115 posted on 05/06/2003 6:45:45 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: Joshua
You would think God would've planned this out a little better before he went looking for a virgin. I hope he gets his timing right next time around.

God gave people 'free will'. Choice. It wasn't God's fault that the people of Israel didn't repent, it wasn't Jesus' fault either.

The kingdom is within you, because the the laws are written upon our hearts. It is within you because it is up to you, the choices that you will make. Whether you will show your love for God, but submitting to His will, or if you will disobey and willfully ignore the laws.

1 John 1:5
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

Go back to Genesis, and the 2 creations. One a little more expansive than the other. Right off the bat there is light, to seperate the darkness. Meaning all was darkness at first. Since the sun and moon didn't come along til later... this 'light' and 'darkness' to me indicate 'good and evil' or 'right and wrong'. Duality.

Next thing that stands out is obedience. Or more precisely 'dis-obedience'. Adam and Eve are kicked out of the garden.

Now, this is just an observation, and one I noticed several years ago, and that is, that in the 1st creation all animals including and Adam and Eve were told to go forth and multiply. In the 2nd creation, these words are missing.

Now, I suppose one could look at things from different perspectives, but we don't have a whole lot of 'time' involed, to compare data, so it would only be a supposition to say, that had they not partaken of the tree of knowledge, they wouldn't have known of evil, or procreation.

The first creation being 'carnal/flesh/darkness'?, (be fruitful and multiply) and the second not. What we might consider 'spiritual/light'?

I also noticed something else, Adam and Eve's first born is Cain. Second born is Abel. Cain kills Abel. Just as the first creation was carnal/flesh, so too, was Adam and Eve's first creation, Cain 'carnal or bad/evil', committing the first murder, because of 'jealousy'.

Did Eve partake of the tree of knowledge because she wanted to be 'better' than what she was? 'Pride'? Is this where we get the saying, 'Pride goeth before a great fall'?

Then we get to Abram and Hagar. Hagar becomes prideful when she conceives, eventually giving birth to Ishmael. Later Abram, now called Abraham and Sarah give birth to Isaac. Ishmael's birth is 'carnal/of the flesh/darkness', while Isaac's birth was based on a Promise/spiritual/light from God.

God reinforced the separation of the child of 'flesh/darkness', from the Child of 'Promise/light', when Hagar and Ishmael were sent off to wander. Another separation of darkness from light.

116 posted on 05/06/2003 7:48:00 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Deut. 32:37 -- And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,)
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