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PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN
lifesite.net ^ | Oct. 10, 2002

Posted on 10/10/2002 6:17:10 PM PDT by Flying Circus

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1 posted on 10/10/2002 6:17:10 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Polycarp; sockmonkey; narses; B-Chan; Land of the Irish; SuziQ; ...
Upside-down world Ping.
2 posted on 10/10/2002 6:34:33 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Flying Circus
conservative idiot
3 posted on 10/10/2002 6:43:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
And you too!
4 posted on 10/10/2002 6:47:00 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Flying Circus
thanks
5 posted on 10/10/2002 6:47:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Flying Circus
The American Catholic Church is, quite simply, going to hell. Its sad when anyone who kneels is refused communion, but its especially troubling when that person just happens to be a Pro-life politician. When was the last time you ever saw one of our pro-choice Catholic politicians refused communion? (Answer: Never!)
6 posted on 10/10/2002 7:05:35 PM PDT by FBDinNJ
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To: nickcarraway; Flying Circus
After Mass, and in the presence of Black's wife and daughter as well as other faithful, Fr. Irace shouted insults to Delegate Black as he exited the Cathedral. When Delegate Black tried to avoid Fr. Irace, pointing out that he had refused him Holy Communion, Fr. Irace shouted "you liar!" several times. As Delegate Black left the Cathedral, Fr. Irace loudly called him a "conservative idiot."

OMG, is this embarassing.

Signed, a fellow conservative idiot.
7 posted on 10/10/2002 7:06:58 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: FBDinNJ
You got it!
8 posted on 10/10/2002 7:10:33 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Desdemona
We should start a club.

BTW, Do you ever go to St. Agatha's?
9 posted on 10/10/2002 7:12:41 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Desdemona
About 20 years a group of Catholics in Stellarton, Nova Scotia were arrested and charged with disturbing the order and solemnity of a divine service. Their crime? They knelt for Communion. Their case made it all the way up to the Supreme Court of Canada where their convictions were quashed.

For those of you with access to a law library, the case is cited as R. v. Skoke-Graham [1985] 1 S.C.R. 106.

10 posted on 10/10/2002 7:17:59 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: Flying Circus
Do you ever go to St. Agatha's?

Unfortunately, no. Latin Mass is at 10 and at that hour I work in a protestant church singing. That job allows me to pay for voice lessons, coaching, theory classes, etc. As long as I just think of it as a gig, I'm fine. So, I go to 9 elsewhere.
11 posted on 10/10/2002 7:20:18 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Flying Circus
I thought I posted this story yesterday on another thread...can't find it...oh well...glad you did :)
12 posted on 10/10/2002 7:33:59 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Desdemona
I always want to go there when I am in town, but I never get the chance.
13 posted on 10/10/2002 7:44:18 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Irisshlass
I couldn't find it posted anywhere. It was send to me via E-mail and I thought it deserved to be seen here.
14 posted on 10/10/2002 7:47:32 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Flying Circus
I go there when I'm in town.
15 posted on 10/10/2002 8:39:21 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Flying Circus
What is the significance of kneeling or standing during communion?
16 posted on 10/10/2002 8:42:42 PM PDT by rising tide
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To: FBDinNJ
Actually pro-abortion politicians are sometimes refused Communion, even if it is a small fraction of the time. I can't think of an excample of Communion offhand, but, for example, Fr. George Parker, pastor of a Church in Connecticut, returned a $5000 donation to Senator Christopher Dodd. For his efforts, he was forced to retire early.
17 posted on 10/10/2002 9:41:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Flying Circus
I did a net search for Fr. Dominic Irace, and the only thing I could find of interest besides RCF's take on this incident, (which mentioned Fr's well known outbursts), was a blurb about some Catholic folks who had some violent, spooky paranormal activity in their house, and asked him for help.

Fr. Irace's response was, “I’ve never dealt with anything like this. In this Diocese we’ve never had anything really serious like that happen.. .1 tell people that it’s almost like voodoo in a way. If you don’t believe in it, it can’t hurt you.”

18 posted on 10/10/2002 9:57:53 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: rising tide
What is the significance of kneeling or standing during communion?

Catholics believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. Kneeling has always been considered a sign of reverence. Up until Second Vatican Council II (1965), communion was distributed on the tongue to those kneeling at the communion rail. That rule was modified to allow the distribution of communion in the hand to standing communicants.

Recently, the USCCB (US Catholic Conference of Bishops) announced:

"The U.S. bishops' Committee on the Liturgy has said that Catholics should not ordinarily receive Communion while kneeling."

It is nothing but the opinion of a small group of bishops -- a committee. Tremendous grief and problems have arisen in the last 30 years because of the "authority" unjustifiably accorded (by individual bishops, priests, and laymen) to statements of mere committees -- particularly this notorious Liturgy Committee (and its 1970s document on art and architecture, for example). A committee has NO power whatsoever, except to propose its opinion to the entire bishops' conference. This was later clarified to state that NO catholic can be refused communion if they choose to kneel.

Obviously, Fr Irace was wrong to refuse communion to Mr. Black.

19 posted on 10/11/2002 12:11:03 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Flying Circus
Thanks for the ping.
20 posted on 10/11/2002 5:02:20 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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