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To: drstevej; restornu; Itsfreewill; RnMomof7; White Mountain; Grig; CubicleGuy; Utah Girl
I'm right on board with you here steve. I was willing to let her multiple names pass. It didn't really bother me. But I am disappointed that restornu/stickywings/itsfreewill is unwilling to make a public acknowledgement of her behavior. But with the attitude that restornu is taking now, I won't be upset at any action that is taken.

I am convinced now that this deception is part of the LDS training. Here is an example of a simple deception that can't be admitted too. We see the same tactic taken when discussing Mormon teachings. Lie, cast blame somewhere else, accuse others of doing the same thing. Because I believe the LDS are conditioned to misrepresent what they believe, restornu has to deflect what she has done here.

restornu, I really think you need to reassess what you beleive, and what that belief is leading you to. Look what it has done here to you. You are unwilling to publically admit to what is now publically known. Look what happened to The Torch in NJ.

One question to our LDS friends on FR. Why the silence? Do you condone the behavior?
750 posted on 10/03/2002 5:03:08 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
Wrigley you need to be much more conserned about the beam in your own eye.
763 posted on 10/03/2002 7:00:17 AM PDT by rising tide
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To: Wrigley
 
I am convinced now that this deception is part of the LDS training.
 
"Surely Wrig, you CANNOT mean this!?" : Elsie



THE DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238--239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1--4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5--11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 BEHOLD, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.
2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.
3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.
 4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.
  7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.
8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.
9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you --there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;
10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.
11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.


"You are mean and hateful!" : YouKnowWho


 
D&C 18: 20
Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil.
(Now you know where we stand!!)

D&C 24: 15
And in whatsoever place ye shall enter, and they receive you not in my name, ye shall leave a cursing instead of a blessing, by casting off the dust of your feet against them as a testimony, and cleansing your feet by the wayside.
(This looks like IRE to me!)

765 posted on 10/03/2002 7:07:09 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Wrigley; restornu
Your #750: this deception is part of the LDS training. ... I believe the LDS are conditioned to misrepresent what they believe ... Do you condone the behavior?

Wrong, wrong, and no. You have no basis to make such sweeping generalizations, yet you seem eager to make them. If you can't show it from the LDS Scriptures, don't pretend it is what we believe.

As the Holy Spirit bears witness, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the Lord's Restored Church, built on the foundation of apostles and prophets, with Jesus Christ as the chief cornerstone.

I do not know Sharon personally. I do work with her, trying to persuade her not to descend to your level (you plural). I try to persuade her not to let you guys draw the worst out of her so you can attack her all the more. I try to persuade her to stick to the Scriptures. I will continue to do so.

I have been trying to persuade you guys in the same direction for a much longer time, but you have hardened your hearts and you refuse. You would rather attack and condemn and make endless demands for this or that apology. This is what the unregenerate do. When you are converted, you will strengthen the brethren, and the sisters, and not try to weaken them.

I do believe that if you guys treated her the way you should, you would not have the problems you have with her. She is a different person when people are kind to her.

So you guys are getting what you are asking for, the behavior you are trying so hard to get!

Try it out! Talk about uplifting things. Talk about things that bring peace to the soul, that bring the Holy Spirit near. Talk about honesty, fidelity, diligence, service, trustworthiness, gratitude, brotherly kindness, charity. Post your favorite Scripture verses and hymns, and tell us why they are your favorites. Exhort Sharon, and all others, to better behavior, living a higher standard.

You have done it before.

Do it consistently, so Sharon won't be thinking the attacks may resume in the next post. See if Sharon is not a different person once she feels able to trust you guys.

768 posted on 10/03/2002 7:21:29 AM PDT by White Mountain
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To: Wrigley; White Mountain; Grig; CubicleGuy; Utah Girl; rising tide
restornu, I really think you need to reassess what you beleive, and what that belief is leading you to. Look what it has done here to you. You are unwilling to publically admit to what is now publically known. Look what happened to The Torch in NJ.

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Wrigley you just needed drag in my faitih, this has nothing to do with my faith!

It has to do with your kind that stalking me in the name ofGod. No matter what forum I was on you were there to ostersize/blackball. I tried humor with you it did not work.

WRIGLEY get a grip!

one would think I rob a bank, or had a hit on someone life, or take bribes, steal an election.

WHAT I DID DO WAS ESCAPE FROM THOSE LIKE YOU WRIGLEY! AND YOUR TYRANT CONTROL!

847 posted on 10/03/2002 12:05:39 PM PDT by Itsfreewill
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