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To: ultima ratio
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04423f.htm

<>ALL Ecumenical Councils are Infallible - unless you are a protestant.<>
100 posted on 09/26/2002 8:40:25 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
You write, "All councils are infallible". Wrong. Both John XXIII and Paul VI were wary of Vatican II's pronouncing any new dogmas. They insisted it was merely pastoral and hence not binding. The Modernists themselves insisted Vatican II was merely pastoral, only reversing this once they got in a position to say what was true and not true in any given teaching. But the real bottom line is this: novelty is never protected by the Holy Spirit. Traditionalists know this, and reject the novel interpretations of the faith which come out of the conciliar Church in the name of Vatican II and which contradict Catholic Tradition. They do no more than is done by the Modernists themselves who ignore the proscriptions of the Council whenever it interferes with their own protestantizing agenda. The New Church made no effort to retain the primacy of place in the Liturgy for Gregorian Chant, for instance. Likewise it ditched Latin which was supposed to be protected at all cost. Both were Vatican II teachings, both were abandoned in a milisecond right after the Council closed by the same people who claim Traditionalists are disobedient.
105 posted on 09/26/2002 9:35:47 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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