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To: Polycarp; Tantumergo; drstevej; RnMomof7
"I'm saying any believer has a better chance of final perseverance and eternal salvation in Christ's Church..."

Yup, arminianism and roman catholicism believes in nothing more than that salvation is one big Cosmic Crap Shoot!

Rather:

"We believe that the same good God, after He had created all things, did not forsake them or give them up to fortune or chance, but that He rules and governs them according to His holy will, so that nothing happens in this world without His appointment; nevertheless, God neither is the Author of nor can be charged with the sins which are committed..."
[Article 13 of the Belgic Confession of faith, 1561]

Jean

(p.s. -did it ever occur to you that Augustines use of the term 'Catholic Church' could be the same use in the phrase that I repeat as a confession every Sunday???? "....I believe in one holy catholic church...." [Apostles Creed]. Catholic means 'universal' -not ~necessarily~ just the Roman church!)

105 posted on 07/28/2002 8:06:20 PM PDT by Jean Chauvin
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To: Jean Chauvin
Catholic means 'universal' -not ~necessarily~ just the Roman church

When Ignatius coined the term catholic church 80 years after Christ, its debatable whether he meant it to be capitalized with the connotation that capitalization brings with it.

No one in their right mind thinks Augustine meant anything less than Catholic by it.

110 posted on 07/28/2002 8:59:24 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Jean Chauvin
".. Arminianism and Roman catholicism .."

One and the same. All man-centered religions are feminized religions and as such, fall into the Arminian catagory.

134 posted on 07/28/2002 10:43:23 PM PDT by Matchett-PI
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