Good question. I would venture to guess "no" as an answer to both.
But don't ever say that the debate was pointless. I must have scored at least 312 points. This makes me the winner, and I'm really happy about that. Come to think about it, everyone involved seems to be really happy...I guess we must all be winners. And here I thought CrEvo debates were supposed to be a zero-sum game!
Har har har. Where shall we send the plague plaque? ;)
More on point, you asked me about a hundred and fifty posts ago whether I'd noticed the flaw in the article on my first reading, or only after you pointed it out. But don't you see? Kinsman is right. Nobody really reads these articles, pro or con. And the posting following afterward is largely a pro forma affair, as nearly as I can tell.
I've been reading the crevo threads for some time now, and only posted to a few, all very recently - within the last few weeks. And after this, I think I'll slink back into the shadows, because watching this is becoming a lot like that silly movie, "Groundhog Day".
Really, it's got all the regularity and organization of a well-worn symphony - the conductor flicks his baton just so, and there's Archaeopteryx. A slight wave to the percussion, and there's a tidal wave of a post purporting to be the be-all and end-all of the debate. A lifted eyebrow to the brass, and there's a whale's hips. A wiggle to the piccolos, and a post springs forth showing that Darwinism invariably leads to lesbian abortionist Nazis. A quick flick of the wrist, and the strings shout out with the geologic column. A wink and a nod, and the oboes burst forth into a song of statistics. And so it goes, gradually growing more and more dissonant, as the proxy arguments over the toes of sloths and the lengths of genomes and such slowly give way to the same futile question every time - "Is there a Goddammit?"
All in perfect rhythm, two separate circles, not talking to each other so much as near each other.
So, I propose we lock the crevo_list. We find the best representative of this orchestral arrangement - call it "Thread" - and remove all the lesser candidates. Then we simply link to Thread as being the best we all can possibly manage, and just call it a day. We can even write "The End" at the end...