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To: PeterPrinciple

There is only ONE translation of the Bible.

The words are there for all to read and it’s amazing how so many people conjure up thoughts and side stories about what Scripture states.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. / After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

Revelation 3:10
Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

2 Peter 2:9
if all this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.

Luke 21:36
So keep watch at all times, and pray that you may have the strength to escape all that is about to happen and to stand before the Son of Man.”

1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God has not appointed us to suffer wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Folks don’t believe it.
That’s their problem and it’s a big one too.

Thus, we get called all sorts of things for Believing The Lord and His Words.


11 posted on 03/01/2026 9:12:32 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; PeterPrinciple
Rwc, I've said before that these references are not supportive of the pre tribulation rapture: Scripture teaches one visible return (Acts 1:11; Revelation 1:7), with endurance until then (Matthew 24:13; Revelation 14:12). Let us "encourage one another and build one another up" (1 Thessalonians 5:11) in hope.
14 posted on 03/01/2026 10:20:31 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

YES! What you said!


16 posted on 03/01/2026 11:03:24 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

In the 1 Thessalonians 5:9 passage, does that mean temporal wrath, eternal wrath, or both?

I would think that we would agree that it does mean eternal wrath, but whether it means temporal wrath is open to interpretation. After all,

Romans 8:17 (KJV) [17] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

And

Matthew 24:21-22 (KJV) [21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. [22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.


31 posted on 03/02/2026 8:29:57 AM PST by kosciusko51
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