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Would Star Trek's "Q" Be as Good a Scientist as Einstein or Hawking?
C.S. Lewis "Space Trilogy" | 02/10/2025 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 02/10/2025 12:37:10 PM PST by CharlesOConnell

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There is a barrel of rotton fish in the conventional “history made by the victors” in the story of Israel’s emnity toward Iran.

Using the now conventional regime-change strategy of the “rent-a-riot”, “Stormin’ Norman” Schwartzkopf Jr.’s daddy, Norman Schwarzkopf Sr. (1895-1958) led the overthrow of the duly elected Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh on the pretext that that government was too cozy with the Soviets, this despite the fact that the Soviets had seized the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic, a constituent of which, Azerbaijan, had historically been a part of Iran. So, rather than honestly threatening to go with Stalin, the Iranians must have been guilty of playing off various foreign factions against one another, at worst.

The reality underlying much of Israel’s hostility to Iran, was that Royal Dutch Shell/BP, a Red Shield possession, suffered nationalization on May 1, 1951 of its Iranian petroleum interests under Mossadegh; though some accommodation has recently been arranged, this history apparently precluded the type of arrangement that birthed the Arabian-American Oil Company (ARAMCO) with Saudi Arabia.

(Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal held forth on the Saudis’ undying emnity toward Iran in his recent interview by Tucker Carlson.)

The Israelis can’t claim the historical fiction that Iran is part of Amalek. The Old Testament prophet Isaiah predicted the rise of Persian King Cyrus the Great 100-200 years before his birth, in Isaiah 44:23-45:8, as “God’s Anointed Shepherd”. This was apparently instrumental in Cyrus liberating the Jews from their Babylonian Captivity, after he had conquered Babylon and allowed them to return to Judah, ending the exile in 538 BC; this is described in the Bible as the “Edict of Cyrus” where he permitted the Jews to rebuild their temple in Jerusalem.

Thus the unreasoning hatred of Iran by the Zionist entity has no conceivable rationalization, as do the ancestral Zionist hatreds of Russia and Germany.

1 posted on 02/10/2025 12:37:10 PM PST by CharlesOConnell
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To: CharlesOConnell

It’s too bad if you are so un-used to the heavy lifting of doing your own thinking that you get easily snow-blinded by well-thought-out arguments. Go back to sucking on beers & drooling in front of the t.v.


2 posted on 02/10/2025 12:38:17 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (Kucy)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Not to quibble, but the character’s name in TOS episode was Trelane.


3 posted on 02/10/2025 12:43:00 PM PST by mgstarr ("I drink, therefore I am" Rene Descartes (1637))
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To: mgstarr

Thanks. I stand corrected.


5 posted on 02/10/2025 12:49:25 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (Kucy)
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To: CharlesOConnell
You do realize that you just insulted yourself?
6 posted on 02/10/2025 12:49:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Strict9

a confabulation of spurious utterances.


7 posted on 02/10/2025 12:50:02 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Strict9

“what the f*** did I just read?”

You didn’t “read” “f***”, it’s just rattling around in your head.

Go get some drug recovery therapy.


8 posted on 02/10/2025 12:52:08 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (Kucy)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I’m all for free speech- but that is pretty jumbled. Maybe the original poster mixed up 4 or 5 separate threads. I browsed over something about Star Trek, and then here come the Jews? Wth


9 posted on 02/10/2025 12:52:36 PM PST by Strict9
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To: Strict9

“then here come the Jews?”

Uh, oh, there goes any possibility of serious, intelligent discussion.


10 posted on 02/10/2025 12:53:48 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (Kucy)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Q had an IQ of 2005, according to Q. This wouldn’t make him omniscient, but it would put him in a league above Einstein or Hawking.


11 posted on 02/10/2025 12:57:05 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: CharlesOConnell

The Jews will do that


12 posted on 02/10/2025 1:01:02 PM PST by Strict9
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To: CharlesOConnell

either way, I’m sure we were in no danger of a serious discussion breaking out.


13 posted on 02/10/2025 1:02:30 PM PST by Strict9
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“Uh, oh, there goes any possibility of serious, intelligent discussion.”
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There is no possibility of a serious, intelligent discussion if you can’t stick to one topic at a time. First, you’re talking about a rather minor character in the Star Trek universe. Then you start discussing angels and demons, without relating it in any way back to the original topic, this minor character “Q“ in Star Trek. Then you go off in a comment about Israel’s emnity toward Iran. None of these topics have the slightest thing to do with each other, at least not based upon anything that you have said here on this thread.

Oh, by the way, perhaps Q is simply just a character intended for some drama and some comic relief. He doesn’t have to be related to angels and Demons, not even as a metaphor. Sometimes a character is just a character. You sound like some of my old literature professors, who wanted to put all kinds of meaning into books and characters that the author likely never even thought about. This is what’s known as creating a mountain out of a molehill.

With regard to Israel and Iran, Israel doesn’t have hostility toward Iran, it has hostility toward the regime of the Ayatollas, and that is because that regime has made it one of its missions to utterly wipe Israel off of the map, and has consistently acted consistent with that declared goal. I don’t know about you, but I would not really be very kindly disposed toward anybody who wanted me wiped out. Prior to the Ayatollahs, Israel got along well with Iran. Iran never went to war against Israel in modern history; quite to the contrary, during the 1973 Arab oil embargo, the Shah of Iran made sure that there were oil shipments to Israel. Why would they be hostile to Iran? No, they are hostile to a regime that has declared its undying enmity for the very existence of Israel.

Until and unless you are able to not only stick to one topic, but to make logical and coherent arguments related thereto, there can’t be any serious and intelligent discussions.


14 posted on 02/10/2025 1:18:58 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

bro. You are high.


15 posted on 02/10/2025 1:19:58 PM PST by Strict9
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To: Ancesthntr

“…consistently acted consistent….”
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Please disregard the first word.


16 posted on 02/10/2025 1:21:53 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Geez, and here I thought that you might appreciate me taking what appeared to be your side.

Oh, well, I’m done with this thread. It’s bad enough to have one illogical nut job to deal with, two is just a bit too much for me. I’m not going to waste my time anymore with either of you two idiots.


17 posted on 02/10/2025 1:23:28 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: GSWarrior

What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?


18 posted on 02/10/2025 1:23:47 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: CharlesOConnell
Another QAnon conspiracy theory…/s
19 posted on 02/10/2025 1:30:13 PM PST by NavyShoe
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To: CharlesOConnell

I hated Q, he was a real jerk.


20 posted on 02/10/2025 1:30:45 PM PST by frogjerk
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