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[Catholic Caucus] Pope tells grandmother not to ‘insist’ on grandchildren’s baptism
LifeSite News ^ | November 28, 2024 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 11/29/2024 10:38:05 AM PST by ebb tide

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It is a matter of faith, a teaching held de fide, that baptism is necessary for one’s salvation.

The Catechism of the Council of Trent urges the utmost importance of baptizing children as soon as possible, in the section entitled “Baptism Of Infants Should Not Be Delayed”:

The faithful are earnestly to be exhorted to take care that their children be brought to the church, as soon as it can be done with safety, to receive solemn Baptism. Since infant children have no other means of salvation except Baptism, we may easily understand how grievously those persons sin who permit them to remain without the grace of the Sacrament longer than necessity may require, particularly at an age so tender as to be exposed to numberless dangers of death.


1 posted on 11/29/2024 10:38:05 AM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 11/29/2024 10:39:44 AM PST by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

If the daughter lacks faith that’s the problem. She’s an adult.


3 posted on 11/29/2024 10:41:01 AM PST by stanne
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To: ebb tide

People need to STOP calling this obvious evil, “Pope”. Pope Benedict did not offer a valid resignation; Pope is not a “shared” position and as such, this evil was not validly elected. He was placed, much like so many of the world “leaders” now. Absolute Evil is currently squatting in the seat, defiling all that it touches. I’ll say it again, STOP calling this evil, “Pope”. The “But… but… but he’ IS the Pope” mentality only allows the evil to continue in the face of common sense. The answer is NO.


4 posted on 11/29/2024 10:41:51 AM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: ebb tide

Do bears s*** in the woods. Answer yes

Is the pope Catholic. Answer, no. Not this one.


5 posted on 11/29/2024 10:43:23 AM PST by Vaquero (In Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'llz just kill you. )
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To: Vaquero

This pope is a South American queer communist.

His is not Catholic.


6 posted on 11/29/2024 10:48:53 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: ebb tide

My oldest niece and first goddaughter wasn’t baptized until she was about two-and-a-half months old. My Mom was really getting on my sister about it. Mom showed a Catholic sensibility/mentality about it. Sometimes Francis just doesn’t show a Catholic sensibility/mentality about things.


7 posted on 11/29/2024 10:57:04 AM PST by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: ebb tide

back in the day, if you waited too long (according to the elder ladies in the family)to baptize the kid(s), the elder ladies would do an “emergency” baptism in the bathroom


8 posted on 11/29/2024 11:11:53 AM PST by stylin19a ("If You Can Read This, Thank a Teacher. If You Can Read It In English, Thank a Veteran" )
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To: ebb tide

FF


9 posted on 11/29/2024 11:13:10 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: stanne

What about Pope Francis? He’s an adult, too. Is he not part of the same problem: lack of faith?


10 posted on 11/29/2024 11:53:18 AM PST by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

I’m responding to the headline

No parent of an adult gets to push this. Bring them into the faith when they’re growing up and you won’t have this problem


11 posted on 11/29/2024 11:56:37 AM PST by stanne
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To: ebb tide

When I was an altar boy in the early ‘80s, the pastor regularly performed weekday morning clandestine baptisms for the unchristened grandchildren of parish ladies who had the tykes for babysitting duty. But, unlike Bergoglio, that old-school Irish-American pastor was actually a believing Catholic.


12 posted on 11/29/2024 11:58:47 AM PST by irishjuggler
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But no one seems willing to be bringing the poor child into the faith, not the mother and not the pope, but only the good grandmother.

What good is a pastor if he leaves his lambs to the wolves?


13 posted on 11/29/2024 12:08:10 PM PST by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

I will never understand the Catholic Church nor the position of an elected man as Pope, supposedly a conduit to God. Oh well, enjoy this guy’s changing rules.


14 posted on 11/29/2024 12:18:59 PM PST by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: ebb tide

Let me explain something to you

The hatred for the Pope has you talking about matters that are not relevant nor logical

Baptism brings the child into the faith. Then the person is judged as a Catholic which is worse as she will not be brought up to know the faith

The grandmother doesn’t get to whine if she was negligent in raising the mother to have faith. That’s not the popes fault.

Now. Please don’t respond to me any more

You can read the Catechism on line.

Catholicism never forces its values. It does not for me an adult to comply

That’s in keeping with God giving us free will


15 posted on 11/29/2024 12:22:18 PM PST by stanne
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To: ebb tide

What about Pope Francis? He’s an adult, too. Is he not part of the same problem: lack of faith?
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It is as obvious as the nose on our face, faithlessness is what’s wrong with the world today. Satan reigns and his evil achievements are visible all around us. Until the world recognizes this truism, things will only get more extreme. Come, Lord Jesus!


16 posted on 11/29/2024 12:31:07 PM PST by iontheball
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To: A Navy Vet

You think it’s part of the pope’s job to force people into Catholicism?

Thats kind of silly don’t you think?


17 posted on 11/29/2024 12:33:16 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
Oh, get off your high horse.

The grandmother is not whining, she is pleading for the Pope for help in the salvation of her grandchild.

The same Pope who will pick to the phone to assure any homo or trans who writes to him that God loves him/her/it just as he/she/it is, cannot pick up the phone to call the poor child's mother and tell her to get herself right with God and His Church? The same pope who claims God wills the diversity of religions?

It is not "hatred" to criticize a shepherd who not only fails to protect his sheep, but actually guides them towards the wolves.

18 posted on 11/29/2024 12:38:45 PM PST by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: ebb tide

The pope is not going to force the mother to baptize t
Her child.

It’s in the catechism

What high horse?


19 posted on 11/29/2024 12:49:33 PM PST by stanne
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To: ebb tide

I failed with my son as none of my 3 grandchildren, ages 14, 13, 10 are baptized or in the Church. Everything else I did right, which was plenty as a single father, pales in comparison to this wrong of mine.

I pray.


20 posted on 11/29/2024 1:10:36 PM PST by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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