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To: Morgana
If any FReeper is in a Methodist church that recently split from the hedonist United Methodist Conference and joined the other conference, kudos to you!

I beg you, as a fellow Christian, let this be a defining moment in your life both as a church and as an individual. Make this your never again moment. Tell each other over and over and over about the first Great Awakening, John Wesley, and his role in the Holiness Movement. That's the point where us Protestants still didn't agree with Catholics about works being part of salvation -- but we quit trying too hard to be different from Catholics to the point that earlier Protestants said holy lives served no purpose (an over simplification of the mistake Protestants made in Wesley's day, but you get the point). Wesley, both as an Anglican minister and later in the Methodist separatists, was loud and proud about Christians being called to live it like we mean it (my words, not his). In fact, this was the main focus of the fire for the Christian abolitionist movement.

Look up how Henry Hoosier, the right-hand man of Francis Asbury (the top minister for Methodists in America) who was a fervent abolitionist and also reputed to be the best orator in America (according to Benjamin Rush, a Declaration signer). Asbury and Hoosier would travel and, among other things, encourage abolition as part of Christians living it like we mean it. Hoosier (also known as "Black Henry") got many "Amens!" from blacks when they took their holiness and abolition message to the deep south. But before the blacks hearing his message got too excited Hoosier stepped on the toes of blacks (and some whites) with his teaching to stop adultery and sexual immorality.

This message of authenticity of Christianity is how Methodists gained in popularity. And it can be the message of Methodists today, particularly the Methodists who broke away from the hedonist UMC. Frankly, it's the message the world needs most today.

6 posted on 11/01/2023 7:37:03 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Great post! Thank you.


14 posted on 11/01/2023 8:59:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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