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To: Skwor
First a logical fallacy as it is an argument through assertion and an ad hominem.

I concede that my claim that the explanations ("Creation Myths," etc.) offered by Bronze-Age nomadic tribesmen are "fantastic" and/or "less plausible" than those offered by modern scientists is a mere "assertion." So anyone who chooses to believe that, e.g., an Invisible Friend in the Sky is responsible for various natural phenomena is, of course, free to do so.

Yes, that could be construed as an ad hominem. But by the same token, your claim that,

If you had any understanding you know this “myth” has gone through ages of enlighten[ment?] and some of the words [sic!] / histories [sic!] greatest thinkers who came to the conclusion that it is not a myth.

...is an obvious argumentum ab auctoritate.

I find it particularly telling that you neglected to mention by name even only a single of the "world's / history's" greatest thinkers who came to such a conclusion. Maybe because they all predate the Copernican Revolution / the steam engine / the electric light bulb?

Regards,

30 posted on 10/23/2023 5:37:18 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

My argumentum ab auctoritate was intended to show very great minds have wrestled with this and have come to accept the premise of a Creator. As a response to your assertion implying thinking people do not believe such rationally, I see my interjection of their opinion more as a fact within a debate than a reliance on authority, but that could be debatable itself.

Yes they are classical thinkers, I stated as much. There are modern contemporaries as well, I suspect you are aware there are.

If your point is they would not have the same conclusion today given they would be aware of more “science” that does not hold up. Within modern circles many great thinkers of today are far from certain of the non-existence of a creator, I will be chartable and assume you are aware of this as well. As it stands one cannot dismiss a Creator out of hand on the basis of science or philosophy, which was the greater point i was making.

If providing a list of names of modern scientists who believe in the possibility of a Creator will actually help sway your opinion I will gladly do so. I believe it likely you are aware there are some as it is though.


34 posted on 10/23/2023 6:07:05 AM PDT by Skwor
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