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Zero Tolerance for Homosexuality. South Sudan Just Told the Pope “No”
L'Espresso ^ | January 30, 2023 | Sandro Magister

Posted on 01/30/2023 3:30:29 PM PST by ebb tide

Zero Tolerance for Homosexuality. South Sudan Just Told the Pope “No”

His January 24 interview with the Associated Press has made no small mess for Pope Francis, ahead of his February 3 arrival in Juba, South Sudan, the second stop, after Congo, on his upcoming trip to Africa.

In the interview, the pope said plain and simple that “homosexuality is not a crime,” and therefore “it is unjust” that “more than 50 countries” should condemn and punish it, including “ten or twelve, more or less,” even with the death penalty.

And therefore, he went on to say, the bishops of these countries must react against these laws and the culture that produces them.

These words of the pope have made their way around the world and have also reached South Sudan, where homosexuality is a crime punishable by up to 14 years in prison. And on Friday January 27, at a press conference following a cabinet meeting headed by President Salva Kiir, Information Minister Michael Makuei Lueth said: “If he (Pope Francis) is coming here and he tells us that marriage of the same sex, homosexuality is legal, we will say no.”

“God was not mistaken,” the minister continued. “He created man and woman and he told them to marry one another and go and fill the world. Do same-sex partners give birth? Our constitution is very clear and says marriage is between the opposite sex and any same-sex marriage is a crime, is a constitutional crime.”

But Makuei also said that “this is not what he is coming for,” because his main goal is to preach peace. And he will do so together with Anglican Church primate Justin Welby and Presbyterian Church of Scotland moderator Iain Greenshields: “a historical event,” because “these three were in Rome when our leaders went there and now they are coming together and it means there is something special about South Sudan.”

The reference is to the visit that President Salva Kiir and Vice-President Riek Machar made to the Vatican in April of 2019, invited to a spiritual retreat that the pope concluded by hunkering down to kiss both their feet (see photo).

Members of rival tribes, the two were at war and the war continued in the following years, killing 400,000 and displacing two million.

But getting back to the question of homosexuality, it must be said that the Anglican Church is also strongly divided on this matter.

Most in the UK and North America want to drop all taboos and bless same-sex marriages in church. While in Africa, where three-quarters of the world’s Anglicans live, strong opposition is blocking arrival at a shared stance.

On January 18 a compromise was proposed from London: a simple non-compulsory prayer for civil unions between persons of the same sex.

As is easily seen, the division afoot in the Anglican Church is very similar to that which is found in the Catholic Church, on the same issue. The dicastery for the doctrine of the faith has prohibited the blessing of homosexual unions, but in Germany, Belgium, and other countries this is justified and practiced all the same, and Francis is letting it slide; and in fact, while meeting with the Belgian bishops at the end of November, he let them know they had his approval.

On February 5, at the press conference scheduled for the flight back to Rome, Francis will have Welby and Greenshields at his side. And it’s a cinch that the questions won’t leave out homosexuality.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: antipope; apostatepope; frankenchurch; homos
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1 posted on 01/30/2023 3:30:29 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 01/30/2023 3:32:48 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
South Sudan Just Told the Pope “No”

The barbarians are circling Rome again.

3 posted on 01/30/2023 3:34:00 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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God has already said no, so why would he now pay attention to some South Sudan dignitary?


4 posted on 01/30/2023 3:34:13 PM PST by BipolarBob (The rumor has not been confirmed until the FBI officially denies it.)
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To: ebb tide

bkmk


5 posted on 01/30/2023 3:34:57 PM PST by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

The word on the strada is they have an inside man.


6 posted on 01/30/2023 3:35:17 PM PST by BipolarBob (The rumor has not been confirmed until the FBI officially denies it.)
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To: ebb tide

Too bad the USA said yes to sexual deviants.


7 posted on 01/30/2023 3:39:38 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: ebb tide

Africa may yet save the Catholic Church.


8 posted on 01/30/2023 3:40:35 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: ebb tide

No matter what the Pope or their prez says, I’d wager there are few South Sudan villages - y’know, where the people live according to their own traditions - holding gay pride parades.

Why the F*** anyone would want their town to become a SF bath house I’ll never understand.


9 posted on 01/30/2023 3:41:01 PM PST by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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We didn’t. The corrupt and evil courts on the orders of the degenerate Derp State did. That garbage has to end before they end us.


10 posted on 01/30/2023 3:41:22 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Amen to that, brother.


11 posted on 01/30/2023 3:42:41 PM PST by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: BipolarBob
God has already said no, so why would he now pay attention to some South Sudan dignitary?

Because its all we have. Our own leaders, religious and political, have said YES

12 posted on 01/30/2023 3:57:43 PM PST by PGR88 (, )
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To: ebb tide

And South Sudan says yes to child marriage.


13 posted on 01/30/2023 3:57:57 PM PST by Round Earther
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

In this case, the people in South Sudan seem to be the civilized ones.


14 posted on 01/30/2023 3:58:38 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

They will not end all of us. However, unless they repent, eventually, God will end all of them.


15 posted on 01/30/2023 4:03:10 PM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: ebb tide

If Francis would heed the Holy Spirit speaking in I Cor. 6:9, and Romans 1, it would be a life-changing event.


16 posted on 01/30/2023 4:04:26 PM PST by rx
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“...homosexuality is not a crime...”

This faggot pope is something else. None of the 7 deadly sins are crimes either but that doesn’t mean the church should glorify these vices.

gluttony
lust
greed
sorrow
wrath
sloth
boasting
pride

How many of the aforementioned are crimes? How many are encouraged by the church?


17 posted on 01/30/2023 4:11:28 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Round Earther

So are you defending sodomy?


18 posted on 01/30/2023 4:18:22 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: BipolarBob

Does South Sudan accept politically persecuted Christians?

Every day that I’m exposed to the LGBTQP child-rapist wackos is like being in prison.


19 posted on 01/30/2023 4:23:16 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: ebb tide

Human “rights” violation and US troops to remove “evil” dictator 3...2...1


20 posted on 01/30/2023 4:29:49 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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